ROBERTO MARTINEZ - Meet the new boss (Same as the old boss?)

hairberto cataract wrote:

Michael Crosby S74 wrote:I went to an Everton In The Community event on Friday night in Parbold with my dad. He said "Martinez lives around here, he might turn up".

He did to be fair to him, popped his head in for 10 minutes or so, said how good a job EITC do etc etc.

He still got a heroes reception. I said to two blokes on the table we were on I dont rate him and he is stubborn.

He needs to go if they can find a decent replacement.

Fair play to him, he's a good man. Shit manager, but a good man.

Pretty much my take on it too, Joe Royle, Graham Stuart, Cliff Marshall and Martin Dobson were all part of a Q&A type thing. They didn't really do anything out of the ordinary but Joe Royle confirmed that Amokachi subbed himself on in the semi against Spurs. Also to hear about this http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/mersey-hard-men-johnny-morrissey-3433534 from Joe Royle was brilliant and so funny. I had never heard about it.

Martin Dobson was great though, I watched him through the night and he made a point of going to every single table and speaking for 5 minutes or so to everyone. He came to our table of 4 when just me and my dad were there, he asked what we thought about the new investor and about the prospects of a new ground.

He didn't have to do that and to be honest he was a bit before my time, but my dad was made up.

Nothing too hectic there then.

Michael Crosby S74 wrote:

hairberto cataract wrote:

Michael Crosby S74 wrote:I went to an Everton In The Community event on Friday night in Parbold with my dad. He said "Martinez lives around here, he might turn up".

He did to be fair to him, popped his head in for 10 minutes or so, said how good a job EITC do etc etc.

He still got a heroes reception. I said to two blokes on the table we were on I dont rate him and he is stubborn.

He needs to go if they can find a decent replacement.

Fair play to him, he's a good man. Shit manager, but a good man.

Pretty much my take on it too, Joe Royle, Graham Stuart, Cliff Marshall and Martin Dobson were all part of a Q&A type thing. They didn't really do anything out of the ordinary but Joe Royle confirmed that Amokachi subbed himself on in the semi against Spurs. Also to hear about this http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/mersey-hard-men-johnny-morrissey-3433534 from Joe Royle was brilliant and so funny. I had never heard about it.

Martin Dobson was great though, I watched him through the night and he made a point of going to every single table and speaking for 5 minutes or so to everyone. He came to our table of 4 when just me and my dad were there, he asked what we thought about the new investor and about the prospects of a new ground.

He didn't have to do that and to be honest he was a bit before my time, but my dad was made up.

I agree. I have gotten to know Martin really well this year as we have a good chat before and after the game every week and some times even during as he will sometimes sit behind me during the match. Every guest I have brought along has always been incredibly impressed with his geniality as a perfect host. He is an absolute star.

Da Judge wrote:

Michael Crosby S74 wrote:

hairberto cataract wrote:

Michael Crosby S74 wrote:I went to an Everton In The Community event on Friday night in Parbold with my dad. He said "Martinez lives around here, he might turn up".

He did to be fair to him, popped his head in for 10 minutes or so, said how good a job EITC do etc etc.

He still got a heroes reception. I said to two blokes on the table we were on I dont rate him and he is stubborn.

He needs to go if they can find a decent replacement.

Fair play to him, he's a good man. Shit manager, but a good man.

Pretty much my take on it too, Joe Royle, Graham Stuart, Cliff Marshall and Martin Dobson were all part of a Q&A type thing. They didn't really do anything out of the ordinary but Joe Royle confirmed that Amokachi subbed himself on in the semi against Spurs. Also to hear about this http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/mersey-hard-men-johnny-morrissey-3433534 from Joe Royle was brilliant and so funny. I had never heard about it.

Martin Dobson was great though, I watched him through the night and he made a point of going to every single table and speaking for 5 minutes or so to everyone. He came to our table of 4 when just me and my dad were there, he asked what we thought about the new investor and about the prospects of a new ground.

He didn't have to do that and to be honest he was a bit before my time, but my dad was made up.

I agree. I have gotten to know Martin really well this year as we have a good chat before and after the game every week and some times even during as he will sometimes sit behind me during the match. Every guest I have brought along has always been incredibly impressed with his geniality as a perfect host. He is an absolute star.

Martin was amazing when I was in the posh seats... an absolute gent who spoke twice at length to me... a true star

Bluejagz wrote:

Nothing too hectic there then.

I'll give you a verbal £1000/1 under Scots law for Pep to be our next manager!

Da Judge wrote:

Michael Crosby S74 wrote:

hairberto cataract wrote:

Michael Crosby S74 wrote:I went to an Everton In The Community event on Friday night in Parbold with my dad. He said "Martinez lives around here, he might turn up".

He did to be fair to him, popped his head in for 10 minutes or so, said how good a job EITC do etc etc.

He still got a heroes reception. I said to two blokes on the table we were on I dont rate him and he is stubborn.

He needs to go if they can find a decent replacement.

Fair play to him, he's a good man. Shit manager, but a good man.

Pretty much my take on it too, Joe Royle, Graham Stuart, Cliff Marshall and Martin Dobson were all part of a Q&A type thing. They didn't really do anything out of the ordinary but Joe Royle confirmed that Amokachi subbed himself on in the semi against Spurs. Also to hear about this http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/mersey-hard-men-johnny-morrissey-3433534 from Joe Royle was brilliant and so funny. I had never heard about it.

Martin Dobson was great though, I watched him through the night and he made a point of going to every single table and speaking for 5 minutes or so to everyone. He came to our table of 4 when just me and my dad were there, he asked what we thought about the new investor and about the prospects of a new ground.

He didn't have to do that and to be honest he was a bit before my time, but my dad was made up.

I agree. I have gotten to know Martin really well this year as we have a good chat before and after the game every week and some times even during as he will sometimes sit behind me during the match. Every guest I have brought along has always been incredibly impressed with his geniality as a perfect host. He is an absolute star.

And a very cultured footballer in his day as well.

How mad is it that Big Dunc is favourite with the bookies to be our next permanent manager? It just won't happen, no way, no how. No billionaire is going to come in and go "yeah, let's give the job to that fucking nutter with the pigeon shit all over him!"

Mind you, Moyes is next favourite and after that Gary Neville. Moyes I can imagine happening, though I'd be a bit surprised, but Neville - after ten games in management, most of which he's lost?

What it does show is how few genuine candidates there are.

I reckon Howard Kendall is in with a shout at this rate.

hairberto cataract wrote:How mad is it that Big Dunc is favourite with the  bookies to be our next permanent manager?  It just won't happen, no way, no how.  No billionaire is going to come in and go "yeah, let's give the job to that fucking nutter with the pigeon shit all over him!"

Mind you, Moyes is next favourite and after that Gary Neville.  Moyes I can imagine happening, though I'd be a bit surprised, but Neville - after ten games in management, most of which he's lost?  

What it does show is how few genuine candidates there are.  

I reckon Howard Kendall is in with a shout at this rate.

Sorry but that list exception ''Hiddink /Simone'' is sh* te ,Where is Pellegrini? Ronald De boa?

sefton wrote:

hairberto cataract wrote:How mad is it that Big Dunc is favourite with the  bookies to be our next permanent manager?  It just won't happen, no way, no how.  No billionaire is going to come in and go "yeah, let's give the job to that fucking nutter with the pigeon shit all over him!"

Mind you, Moyes is next favourite and after that Gary Neville.  Moyes I can imagine happening, though I'd be a bit surprised, but Neville - after ten games in management, most of which he's lost?  

What it does show is how few genuine candidates there are.  

I reckon Howard Kendall is in with a shout at this rate.

Sorry but that list exception ''Hiddink /Simone'' is sh* te ,Where is Pellegrini? Ronald De boa?

Hodgson, Benitez, Rogers.. would cause a bit of a stir

Who the balls is Terry Tuchel?

hairberto cataract wrote:How mad is it that Big Dunc is favourite with the  bookies to be our next permanent manager?  It just won't happen, no way, no how.  No billionaire is going to come in and go "yeah, let's give the job to that fucking nutter with the pigeon shit all over him!"

Mind you, Moyes is next favourite and after that Gary Neville.  Moyes I can imagine happening, though I'd be a bit surprised, but Neville - after ten games in management, most of which he's lost?  

What it does show is how few genuine candidates there are.  

I reckon Howard Kendall is in with a shout at this rate.

But the favourite is still 6/1. Until there is a vacancy, there's no telling who will be favourite. A large part of it is who is available at any given moment in time. I can't see Bobby going until the summer to be honest.

Barry Horne's Equaliser wrote:

hairberto cataract wrote:How mad is it that Big Dunc is favourite with the  bookies to be our next permanent manager?  It just won't happen, no way, no how.  No billionaire is going to come in and go "yeah, let's give the job to that fucking nutter with the pigeon shit all over him!"

Mind you, Moyes is next favourite and after that Gary Neville.  Moyes I can imagine happening, though I'd be a bit surprised, but Neville - after ten games in management, most of which he's lost?  

What it does show is how few genuine candidates there are.  

I reckon Howard Kendall is in with a shout at this rate.

But the favourite is still 6/1. Until there is a vacancy, there's no telling who will be favourite. A large part of it is who is available at any given moment in time. I can't see Bobby going until the summer to be honest.

If I'm really honest... I can't see Bobby going at all... and that is tragic

Mori Foo Gwladys wrote:

Barry Horne's Equaliser wrote:

hairberto cataract wrote:How mad is it that Big Dunc is favourite with the  bookies to be our next permanent manager?  It just won't happen, no way, no how.  No billionaire is going to come in and go "yeah, let's give the job to that fucking nutter with the pigeon shit all over him!"

Mind you, Moyes is next favourite and after that Gary Neville.  Moyes I can imagine happening, though I'd be a bit surprised, but Neville - after ten games in management, most of which he's lost?  

What it does show is how few genuine candidates there are.  

I reckon Howard Kendall is in with a shout at this rate.

But the favourite is still 6/1. Until there is a vacancy, there's no telling who will be favourite. A large part of it is who is available at any given moment in time. I can't see Bobby going until the summer to be honest.

If I'm really honest... I can't see Bobby going at all... and that is tragic

Bill is still Chairman and I think he likes Bobby too much. Can't see him sacking Bobby.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/35768923

Barcodes sniffing around Rafa.

Never thought I would say this, but he'd be a much better bet than Martinez for us. I blame him for poisoning the relationship between red and blue on Merseyside, and for being a twat, and for that shite about small clubs.... but he's tough and he knows how to put together a team. He still has a house on the Wirral as far as I know. And the RS still love him. Many reasons to employ the fat knobhead.

https://www.evertonarentwe.com/2016/03/09/roberto-martinez/

Worth a read bit I am sad to say I have gone beyond hope now 😕

hairberto cataract wrote:http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/35768923

Barcodes sniffing around Rafa.

Never thought I would say this, but he'd be a much better bet than Martinez for us.  I blame him for poisoning the relationship between red and blue on Merseyside, and for being a twat, and for that shite about small clubs.... but he's tough and he knows how to put together a team.  He still has a house on the Wirral as far as I know.  And the RS still love him.  Many reasons to employ the fat knobhead.

NO NO NO NO, We have one hypocrite already at Everton ,we don't need another.

Helenqu wrote:https://www.evertonarentwe.com/2016/03/09/roberto-martinez/

Worth a read bit I am sad to say I have gone beyond hope now 😕

Interesting read.
The one thing that RM did wrong was probably having such a positive effect on the team in his first year.
It gave us all the kind of hope that only football fans can muster.
5th, and almost 4th if it was for his terrible team selection against Palace at home in the run in.
His second season with us, hoping that Big Luke and the baffling Eto'o signing, would likely be marauding through defenses, took the wind out of our sails, and then we met Yarmalenko and his mates. Then we stumbled into this season.
Could it be the false hope and high expectations that have hurt us?
Expectations of the club and fans?

His first season, his defence still had the Moyes mentality.

It's shot to fuck now.

The man has absolutely no idea how to get his team to defend.

His sub on Saturday shows how much of an arrogant fuckwit he is.

2- 0 up. play the game out and a nice 3 points...oh no!!! not this fuckwit. what we need to do is get that all important 3rd goal.

As I said, fuckwit.

Gravy & Chips wrote:His first season, his defence still had the Moyes mentality.

It's shot to fuck now.

The man has absolutely no idea how to get his team to defend.

His sub on Saturday shows how much of an arrogant fuckwit he is.

2- 0 up. play the game out and a nice 3 points...oh no!!! not this fuckwit. what we need to do is get that all important 3rd goal.

As I said,  fuckwit.

On MOTD2 Trevor Sinclair mentioned Leicester's "secret" to Danny Simpson. When they're under pressure they put Mahrez and Vardey on each wing, while the rest defend, which requires the defense to double-team them both. If that's was what RM had in mind then it makes sense, except Big Luke and Niasse didn't adopt the same strategy.

Helenqu wrote:https://www.evertonarentwe.com/2016/03/09/roberto-martinez/

Worth a read bit I am sad to say I have gone beyond hope now 😕

Good article. In between me wanting him sacked, I do wonder if we are being a bit harsh on him. Clearly we are very good going forward (51 goals scored; only City and Leicester have scored more...both 52). At the back we are a bit suspect, having let in 39 goals. But we're not that much worse than Leicester (31), City (31) and Arsenal (30).

On the other hand, I don't see any improvement defensively. We get a reasonable number of clean sheets but if the opposition score one, they'll go to score another 3 or 4 because we are so brittle.

And the league table didn't lie last season and it isn't lying now either

Armchair wrote:

Helenqu wrote:https://www.evertonarentwe.com/2016/03/09/roberto-martinez/

Worth a read bit I am sad to say I have gone beyond hope now 😕

Good article. In between me wanting him sacked, I do wonder if we are being a bit harsh on him. Clearly we are very good going forward (51 goals scored; only City and Leicester have scored more...both 52). At the back we are a bit suspect, having let in 39 goals. But we're not that much worse than Leicester (31), City (31) and Arsenal (30).

On the other hand, I don't see any improvement defensively. We get a reasonable number of clean sheets but if the opposition score one, they'll go to score another 3 or 4 because we are so brittle.

And the league table didn't lie last season and it isn't lying now either

What annoys me the most is we have a good defence. We have good defensive midfielders but we just can't settle and win 1-0. I am not wanting use to win the league by winning every game 1-0 but at time ie last weekend we just need to shut up shop.

Also the free kicks and corners are shit. We are no longer a threat from them.

Mr_Ben wrote:

Armchair wrote:

Helenqu wrote:https://www.evertonarentwe.com/2016/03/09/roberto-martinez/

Worth a read bit I am sad to say I have gone beyond hope now 😕

Good article. In between me wanting him sacked, I do wonder if we are being a bit harsh on him. Clearly we are very good going forward (51 goals scored; only City and Leicester have scored more...both 52). At the back we are a bit suspect, having let in 39 goals. But we're not that much worse than Leicester (31), City (31) and Arsenal (30).

On the other hand, I don't see any improvement defensively. We get a reasonable number of clean sheets but if the opposition score one, they'll go to score another 3 or 4 because we are so brittle.

And the league table didn't lie last season and it isn't lying now either

What annoys me the most is we have a good defence. We have good defensive midfielders but we just can't settle and win 1-0. I am not wanting use to win the league by winning every game 1-0 but at time ie last weekend we just need to shut up shop.

Also the free kicks and corners are shit. We are no longer a threat from them.

Correct - there are positives about the way that we play but everyone knows what to expect. We should have more strings to our bow.

Roberto Martinez is a Jig-Saw Puzzle missing a few pieces, Looks great on the box? Try assembling it together.

Out of his Debth.

Barcodes have sacked McClaren. They need someone like Martinez. Let's give him to them.

hairberto cataract wrote:Barcodes have sacked McClaren.  They need someone like Martinez.  Let's give him to them.

good call... he has history in taking clubs down too so he's perfect