Aston Villa v Everton

O'Brien about to come on!

How did they not score!!!?? What a chance!

Harrison and Gueye off, Mangala and O'Brien on.

If any of you watch ice hockey, this is like a powerplay.

We don't even get to borrow the ball now.

We are cut open but Watkins manages to hit it wide of the post.

Ndiaye getting cramps. Lindström about to come on.

Foooook! 3-2. Duran from a hell of a distance.

Fook! DCL off the crossbar! Fook!

Lindström and Beto about to come on.

Iro off. And Ndiaye.

We are just looking mentally and physically tired. I'll be shocked if we get something from this game.

DCL offside but the pass was too late, he can't hold his run indefinitely.

Last chance..... Villa clear.

All over, 3-2.

Yep. Fook.

This is very difficult to deal with week after week.

Well, the result we all expected delivered in a typically Everton fashion. I think we’re going to be ok. Branthwaite can’t come back soon enough and we need a proper right back, but if we can just get a win somewhere we’ll go on a great run and smash a load of teams up. Or something.

pretty sure I heard on 5 live on the way home that's our worst start to a season since 1959.

Tonteau wrote:Well, the result we all expected delivered in a typically Everton fashion. I think we’re going to be ok. Branthwaite can’t come back soon enough and we need a proper right back, but if we can just get a win somewhere we’ll go on a great run and smash a load of teams up. Or something.

So Dyche is probably on his last legs at the minute and it wouldn’t bother me if he did go but I don’t think he’s lost the dressing room yet. Saying that if he’s not getting results it doesn’t matter who he has support from.

Lumper wrote:

Tonteau wrote:Well, the result we all expected delivered in a typically Everton fashion. I think we’re going to be ok. Branthwaite can’t come back soon enough and we need a proper right back, but if we can just get a win somewhere we’ll go on a great run and smash a load of teams up. Or something.

So Dyche is probably on his last legs at the minute and it wouldn’t bother me if he did go but I don’t think he’s lost the dressing room yet. Saying that if he’s not getting results it doesn’t matter who he has support from.

Southampton on Tuesday in the Pepsi pisspot... then Leicester ...

..lose those 2 and see ya later fella

At 2-0, how many of us thought it would end 3-2? I know that I did.

hairy cataract wrote:At 2-0, how many of us thought it would end 3-2?  I know that I did.

I honestly thought it would end 4-2, but at no time did I think we would get a win, even when up 2-0. Primarily because even when we were up 2-0, we were second best and could barely get out of our half. Villa dominated throughout the match really. No surprise we couldn't hang on to get anything in the end.

hairy cataract wrote:At 2-0, how many of us thought it would end 3-2?  I know that I did.

I watched the game with about ten family members. They all said I was very negative when we were 2-0 up. Then they all told me I was spot on when we lost. Very predictable and very frustrating.

Lumper wrote:

hairy cataract wrote:At 2-0, how many of us thought it would end 3-2?  I know that I did.

I watched the game with about ten family members. They all said I was very negative when we were 2-0 up. Then they all told me I was spot on when we lost. Very predictable and very frustrating.

Yep, I think we all could feel it coming.

The only thing I thought when we were up 2-0 was, "when was the last time we won and the Shite lost on the same weekend? But I don't think we'll get a win today anyway so it becomes an invalid question." And sure enough, it didn't matter.

Tonteau wrote:Well, the result we all expected delivered in a typically Everton fashion. I think we’re going to be ok. Branthwaite can’t come back soon enough and we need a proper right back, but if we can just get a win somewhere we’ll go on a great run and smash a load of teams up. Or something.

This is pretty much where I'm at. Obviously I never expected going 2-0 up and still losing to be our new thing, not least because I never expect us to score two goals. But we are Everton and we keep on inventing new ways to embarrass ourselves. "If it were a Hollywood script, it'd be unbelievable" etc etc.

But there are many different ways to throw away a two-goal lead and end up with nothing, as we're discovering. That one yesterday felt nothing like the Bournemouth one. I expected a battering but we gave them a game. The winner was just one of those that you can't do anything about. The equaliser, maybe I don't understand the rules anymore but I thought Digne should have been given offside despite not touching the ball as his presence was the only reason for Harrison's fuck-up? I don't know. The first goal - well. I really don't want to spend any more time on the "Keane is shite" hill, it's too easy to pick him off week after week, but that goal was a perfect encapsulation of why he should be nowhere near the first team when a new £17m signing is sat on the bench. His awareness of what's around him is frequently close to zero.

I think there is a half-decent team there, waiting to get out. I think Dyche is squarely to blame for where we are right now. At the same time I'm not sure I want him gone, I just want him to fix things. So yesterday was weird, we chuck away a 2-0 lead again but it was against a very good team (like others, I never expected us to hold on) and I feel somewhat heartened by elements of the performance.

Keep Garner at right back for a while. He's easily our best right back, it's not close. And I would have Garner anywhere on the pitch in preference to sitting on the bench.

Oh, and watching Onana roll around pretend injured after screwing up for our first goal was a laugh. We had two years of watching that. He had the option of getting up, tracking back, and seeing if he could do something to end our attack, but no, he rolled around pretend injured as always. Just confirms what I and many others always thought: he has a lot of ability but he was a bad fit for us in a number of ways. I liked him, but for all the wrong reasons. I'm glad we're rid.