DAVID MOYES - ex Boss

Yankthattoffee wrote:

Tonteau wrote:http://www.101greatgoals.com/blog/the-tweets-apparently-ancelotti-not-moyes-was-fergies-1st-choice-to-replace-him-at-man-united/

So let's get Ancelotti then?

We would have to move quickly ,has its been reported that Real Madrid are looking to replace Mourinho with Ancelotti when the special one returns to Chelsea at the end of the season.

Uwist61 wrote:

Yankthattoffee wrote:

Tonteau wrote:http://www.101greatgoals.com/blog/the-tweets-apparently-ancelotti-not-moyes-was-fergies-1st-choice-to-replace-him-at-man-united/

So let's get Ancelotti then?

Well he is available... he turned Real Madrid down.... now I know we don't normally allow ourselves to be mentioned in the same breath as Real Madrid ... but in this case we could perhaps make an exception

Maybe Ancelotti could be inline for the Chelsea job and Mourinho was a red herring after all

Mourinho for Everton?

Bit of an interesting one, this: http://www.evertonfc.com/news/archive/2013/05/14/big-dunc-s-big-regret

Moyes and Duncan not talking for 5 years.

Tonteau wrote:Bit of an interesting one, this: http://www.evertonfc.com/news/archive/2013/05/14/big-dunc-s-big-regret

Moyes and Duncan not talking for 5 years.

to be honest, I've not spoken to either of them for about the same length of time

Sack the Juggler wrote:

Tonteau wrote:Bit of an interesting one, this: http://www.evertonfc.com/news/archive/2013/05/14/big-dunc-s-big-regret

Moyes and Duncan not talking for 5 years.

to be honest, I've not spoken to either of them for about the same length of time

And I bet not a day goes by when you don't regret it. Time to pick up the phone and build some bridges, sacko.

Tonteau wrote:

Sack the Juggler wrote:

Tonteau wrote:Bit of an interesting one, this: http://www.evertonfc.com/news/archive/2013/05/14/big-dunc-s-big-regret

Moyes and Duncan not talking for 5 years.

to be honest, I've not spoken to either of them for about the same length of time

And I bet not a day goes by when you don't regret it. Time to pick up the phone and build some bridges, sacko.

One of my nephews is in one of Dunc's lads class. Dunc is actually a really decent guy... and he has changed (matured)....

All over.

Thanks David and good luck.

Armchair Evertonian wrote:All over.

Thanks David and good luck.

We had some good times, we had some bad times but we part with good memories and wish you all the very best.

Armchair Evertonian wrote:All over.

Thanks David and good luck.

Indeed - thank you David for 11 exciting years. Best of luck at Utd.

Sad to see you go David ... thanks

and yet today's game against the Chavs summed up his 11 years.
We looked great at times, could have would have should have.
Just when we needed a bit of a life, we got J5 in midfield........

I'm certain the purse strings will now show the difference 30 miles away.

Yankthattoffee wrote:and yet today's game against the Chavs summed up his 11 years.
We looked great at times, could have would have should have.
Just when we needed a bit of a life, we got J5 in midfield........

I'm certain the purse strings will now show the difference 30 miles away.

He'll be so frustrated over there. "Right, we're a goal down, who can I bring on... Rooney? Hernandez? Kagawa? Valencia? Aw come on! Is there naebody shite I can pick?"

Tonteau wrote:

Yankthattoffee wrote:and yet today's game against the Chavs summed up his 11 years.
We looked great at times, could have would have should have.
Just when we needed a bit of a life, we got J5 in midfield........

I'm certain the purse strings will now show the difference 30 miles away.

He'll be so frustrated over there. "Right, we're a goal down, who can I bring on... Rooney? Hernandez? Kagawa? Valencia? Aw come on! Is there naebody shite I can pick?"

This is why he needs to sign Nais and J5 from us. £20m the pair. He'll need them in the first season to provide continuity in his thinking.

hairy cataract wrote:

Tonteau wrote:

Yankthattoffee wrote:and yet today's game against the Chavs summed up his 11 years.
We looked great at times, could have would have should have.
Just when we needed a bit of a life, we got J5 in midfield........

I'm certain the purse strings will now show the difference 30 miles away.

He'll be so frustrated over there. "Right, we're a goal down, who can I bring on... Rooney? Hernandez? Kagawa? Valencia? Aw come on! Is there naebody shite I can pick?"

This is why he needs to sign Nais and J5 from us. £20m the pair. He'll need them in the first season to provide continuity in his thinking.

I have great concerns for Moyes taking over at United. most on here remember Mike Walker? Did a great job at Norwich City on a shoestring budget,came to Everton one of the richest clubs at the time, nearly got us relegated.

SEFTON wrote:

hairy cataract wrote:

Tonteau wrote:

Yankthattoffee wrote:and yet today's game against the Chavs summed up his 11 years.
We looked great at times, could have would have should have.
Just when we needed a bit of a life, we got J5 in midfield........

I'm certain the purse strings will now show the difference 30 miles away.

He'll be so frustrated over there. "Right, we're a goal down, who can I bring on... Rooney? Hernandez? Kagawa? Valencia? Aw come on! Is there naebody shite I can pick?"

This is why he needs to sign Nais and J5 from us. £20m the pair. He'll need them in the first season to provide continuity in his thinking.

I have great concerns for Moyes taking over at United. most on here remember Mike Walker? Did a great job at Norwich City on a shoestring budget,came to Everton one of the richest clubs at the time, nearly got us relegated.

Mike Walker was a lazy shit though - when we were struggling and not winning anything, he was hardly at the club, leaving all the training to the coaches - the rumours was that he only turned up on match days - coming to everton was a dream come true for him, he could stop working - think he retired to cyprus after his payout from us - wonder if he lost it all in the recent banking crisis there?

For those asking David Moyes sought, and received, full permission from Everton to go Man Utd's Carrington HQ today.


so he has officially gone then

if this is the case, why no news on manager

the jellyman wrote:For those asking David Moyes sought, and received, full permission from Everton to go Man Utd's Carrington HQ today.


so he has officially gone then

if this is the case, why no news on manager

no, he hasn't officially gone - he is off on holiday soon so wanted to pop into his new office before he went, he is also popping into finch road until his last day of contract to make sure that is all in order when he hands it over to the new manager

Sack the Juggler wrote:

the jellyman wrote:For those asking David Moyes sought, and received, full permission from Everton to go Man Utd's Carrington HQ today.


so he has officially gone then

if this is the case, why no news on manager

no, he hasn't officially gone - he is off on holiday soon so wanted to pop into his new office before he went, he is also popping into finch road until his last day of contract to make sure that is all in order when he hands it over to the new manager

I don't get why people are kicking off, he is seeing out his contract, he has nothing major to do at Everton anymore. What's the big deal? Is he not allowed to think about United now?

Not allowing him to go to Carrington would be even more small time than letting him go there, plus I expect most of the squad are on holiday, he is just going to be seen I presume.

There are some proper idiots following Everton who seem desperate for the club to fail, its really weird. Kicking off on twitter about the new manager despite NOTHING coming from the club officially.

Sack the Juggler wrote:

SEFTON wrote:

hairy cataract wrote:

Tonteau wrote:

Yankthattoffee wrote:and yet today's game against the Chavs summed up his 11 years.
We looked great at times, could have would have should have.
Just when we needed a bit of a life, we got J5 in midfield........

I'm certain the purse strings will now show the difference 30 miles away.

He'll be so frustrated over there. "Right, we're a goal down, who can I bring on... Rooney? Hernandez? Kagawa? Valencia? Aw come on! Is there naebody shite I can pick?"

This is why he needs to sign Nais and J5 from us. £20m the pair. He'll need them in the first season to provide continuity in his thinking.

I have great concerns for Moyes taking over at United. most on here remember Mike Walker? Did a great job at Norwich City on a shoestring budget,came to Everton one of the richest clubs at the time, nearly got us relegated.

Mike Walker was a lazy shit though - when we were struggling and not winning anything, he was hardly at the club, leaving all the training to the coaches - the rumours was that he only turned up on match days - coming to everton was a dream come true for him, he could stop working - think he retired to cyprus after his payout from us - wonder if he lost it all in the recent banking crisis there?

Well STJ, heard he went bankrupt and had to drive refuge wagons for a living.?

Michael Crosby S74 wrote:

Sack the Juggler wrote:

the jellyman wrote:For those asking David Moyes sought, and received, full permission from Everton to go Man Utd's Carrington HQ today.


so he has officially gone then

if this is the case, why no news on manager

no, he hasn't officially gone - he is off on holiday soon so wanted to pop into his new office before he went, he is also popping into finch road until his last day of contract to make sure that is all in order when he hands it over to the new manager

I don't get why people are kicking off, he is seeing out his contract, he has nothing major to do at Everton anymore. What's the big deal? Is he not allowed to think about United now?

Not allowing him to go to Carrington would be even more small time than letting him go there, plus I expect most of the squad are on holiday, he is just going to be seen I presume.

There are some proper idiots following Everton who seem desperate for the club to fail, its really weird. Kicking off on twitter about the new manager despite NOTHING coming from the club officially.

I reckon some people are disappointed that we didn't win the league, or the FA cup or any cup with Moyes and they blame Bill for that for eiher sticking with him too long or not giving him enough funds to do the job.

Much as I like Bill and I'm sure that he is not half as dumb as he likes to portray himself, he does himself no favours with this, "I'm just as much a fan as you are" and "I wasn't expecting this" approach to the fans.

I reckon Bill is an excellent businessman - you don't consistently make a profit on shows in the west end by being lucky, you have to be a hard nosed businessman - and that's what Bill is but he tries to disarm his critics by playing dumb, but whilst he's an excelent businessman, he's a shit actor, and he is cringeworthy at times.

Anyway, people are pissed off with Bill and pissed off with losing a decent manager without having a plan to replace him, so rather than waiting to find out who has been appointed before getting pissed off with him, they are jumping the gun and finding things to be pissed off with him before anyone is appointed.

If he had announced an appointment today, them same people might have had a go at him for not taking his time over the appointment.

I expect to see an advert in the echo for the job and for the club to be seen to be considering all the options, before appointing Pip or Stubbs.

Some of us will be happy, some of us will be disappointed, but the same result would have been true if we had appointed Martinez or Allardyce.

Whoever he chooses he will be criticised by the fans, so he can't win. What he needs to do is to make a decision about who best fits the bill and then go for it, stick with by him come rain or shine and us moaning fans and see where it takes us.

Personally, if we appoint Stubbs then I'll never speak to Bill again , at least until either Stubbs wins something or I bump into Bill and tell him what a great Evertonian he is...

Sack the Juggler wrote:

Michael Crosby S74 wrote:

Sack the Juggler wrote:

the jellyman wrote:For those asking David Moyes sought, and received, full permission from Everton to go Man Utd's Carrington HQ today.


so he has officially gone then

if this is the case, why no news on manager

no, he hasn't officially gone - he is off on holiday soon so wanted to pop into his new office before he went, he is also popping into finch road until his last day of contract to make sure that is all in order when he hands it over to the new manager

I don't get why people are kicking off, he is seeing out his contract, he has nothing major to do at Everton anymore. What's the big deal? Is he not allowed to think about United now?

Not allowing him to go to Carrington would be even more small time than letting him go there, plus I expect most of the squad are on holiday, he is just going to be seen I presume.

There are some proper idiots following Everton who seem desperate for the club to fail, its really weird. Kicking off on twitter about the new manager despite NOTHING coming from the club officially.

I reckon some people are disappointed that we didn't win the league, or the FA cup or any cup with Moyes and they blame Bill for that for eiher sticking with him too long or not giving him enough funds to do the job.

Much as I like Bill and I'm sure that he is not half as dumb as he likes to portray himself, he does himself no favours with this, "I'm just as much a fan as you are" and "I wasn't expecting this" approach to the fans.

I reckon Bill is an excellent businessman - you don't consistently make a profit on shows in the west end by being lucky, you have to be a hard nosed businessman - and that's what Bill is but he tries to disarm his critics by playing dumb, but whilst he's an excelent businessman, he's a shit actor, and he is cringeworthy at times.

Anyway, people are pissed off with Bill and pissed off with losing a decent manager without having a plan to replace him, so rather than waiting to find out who has been appointed before getting pissed off with him, they are jumping the gun and finding things to be pissed off with him before anyone is appointed.

If he had announced an appointment today, them same people might have had a go at him for not taking his time over the appointment.

I expect to see an advert in the echo for the job and for the club to be seen to be considering all the options, before appointing Pip or Stubbs.

Some of us will be happy, some of us will be disappointed, but the same result would have been true if we had appointed Martinez or Allardyce.

Whoever he chooses he will be criticised by the fans, so he can't win. What he needs to do is to make a decision about who best fits the bill and then go for it, stick with by him come rain or shine and us moaning fans and see where it takes us.

Personally, if we appoint Stubbs then I'll never speak to Bill again , at least until either Stubbs wins something or I bump into Bill and tell him what a great Evertonian he is...

The ignorami who are complaining are the self same people who will scream at Bill for not getting he right investor in, and having found said investor would then harangue the owner as to why having had the stadium completed; the transfer and infusion of the squad delivered, he had not returned the club to some form of social ownership (aka please Bill find someone willing to donate £500,000,000)

The reality is as others have said.... some will like the choise others will dislike... howver all of us should be expeced to give nothing but wholesale support.

The new manager needs to have:
1. Tactical nous... somewhat assured by the qualifications to get to the status
2. Gravitas and a presence to ensure that the employees (ie players and staff) work to (and succeed against) the plan to deliver the expected result
3. Humility to recognise that there cannot be another David Moyes, but by staying true to the principles the club can continue to prosper
4. Strength of character to realise that we ae in for the long haul and the strength to adapt but not quit

The Board needs to recognise:
1. Moyes was Moyes.... clones are unlikely - they find the guy they want and support him as best they can and that is not the same as outright financial help. The strength of Moyes is that (as in business) sometimes the unavailability of one option drives you to work and succeed with others. At Manure, Moyes will have the panacea of "we can always buy"....
2. Help set the tone with the fanbase as to what should be reasonably expected. Where will this years money actually be spent - y on Debt Interest AND repayment; z on transfers...x on Stadium refurb etc

The Fanbase MUST recognise:
1. We are not going to win the title
2. The goal is to continually improve... but that might not happen immediately
3. The manager must always have the support for what is being done
4. We need to accept the results good or bad for a while as we bed in....
5. No manager has ever become experienced without having being inexperienced before.

External cnadidates can have a lot to offer.... Pereira is very beguiling, with a successful story with Everton and a supportive board what makes you think he will not be attractive to a CL Move (if we just fall outside as per recent years). Martinez has the experience and the humility to recognise our strengths and to build upon them... but again in 2-3 years time will we be fighting them off as Wigan have done for a few years

Internal candidates could be as good if not better becasue there is the real inbuilt loyalty... unless a Manure/Chelski/Arse position comes up or similar in Europe we can be more certain that they stick around.

Every Manager with the right support will be successful, if we as a collective group Manager, Club and Fanbase can come together then we might still have a surprise or two going forward.

Pereira/Martinez or Neville/Weir/Stubbs/Round?

The biggest problem with the internal route is that there are a number of candidates and only one position.... that might casue a resentment

Uwist61 wrote:

Sack the Juggler wrote:

Michael Crosby S74 wrote:

Sack the Juggler wrote:

the jellyman wrote:For those asking David Moyes sought, and received, full permission from Everton to go Man Utd's Carrington HQ today.


so he has officially gone then

if this is the case, why no news on manager

no, he hasn't officially gone - he is off on holiday soon so wanted to pop into his new office before he went, he is also popping into finch road until his last day of contract to make sure that is all in order when he hands it over to the new manager

I don't get why people are kicking off, he is seeing out his contract, he has nothing major to do at Everton anymore. What's the big deal? Is he not allowed to think about United now?

Not allowing him to go to Carrington would be even more small time than letting him go there, plus I expect most of the squad are on holiday, he is just going to be seen I presume.

There are some proper idiots following Everton who seem desperate for the club to fail, its really weird. Kicking off on twitter about the new manager despite NOTHING coming from the club officially.

I reckon some people are disappointed that we didn't win the league, or the FA cup or any cup with Moyes and they blame Bill for that for eiher sticking with him too long or not giving him enough funds to do the job.

Much as I like Bill and I'm sure that he is not half as dumb as he likes to portray himself, he does himself no favours with this, "I'm just as much a fan as you are" and "I wasn't expecting this" approach to the fans.

I reckon Bill is an excellent businessman - you don't consistently make a profit on shows in the west end by being lucky, you have to be a hard nosed businessman - and that's what Bill is but he tries to disarm his critics by playing dumb, but whilst he's an excelent businessman, he's a shit actor, and he is cringeworthy at times.

Anyway, people are pissed off with Bill and pissed off with losing a decent manager without having a plan to replace him, so rather than waiting to find out who has been appointed before getting pissed off with him, they are jumping the gun and finding things to be pissed off with him before anyone is appointed.

If he had announced an appointment today, them same people might have had a go at him for not taking his time over the appointment.

I expect to see an advert in the echo for the job and for the club to be seen to be considering all the options, before appointing Pip or Stubbs.

Some of us will be happy, some of us will be disappointed, but the same result would have been true if we had appointed Martinez or Allardyce.

Whoever he chooses he will be criticised by the fans, so he can't win. What he needs to do is to make a decision about who best fits the bill and then go for it, stick with by him come rain or shine and us moaning fans and see where it takes us.

Personally, if we appoint Stubbs then I'll never speak to Bill again , at least until either Stubbs wins something or I bump into Bill and tell him what a great Evertonian he is...

The ignorami who are complaining are the self same people who will scream at Bill for not getting he right investor in, and having found said investor would then harangue the owner as to why having had the stadium completed; the transfer and infusion of the squad delivered, he had not returned the club to some form of social ownership (aka please Bill find someone willing to donate £500,000,000)

The reality is as others have said.... some will like the choise others will dislike... howver all of us should be expeced to give nothing but wholesale support.

The new manager needs to have:
1. Tactical nous... somewhat assured by the qualifications to get to the status
2. Gravitas and a presence to ensure that the employees (ie players and staff) work to (and succeed against) the plan to deliver the expected result
3. Humility to recognise that there cannot be another David Moyes, but by staying true to the principles the club can continue to prosper
4. Strength of character to realise that we ae in for the long haul and the strength to adapt but not quit

The Board needs to recognise:
1. Moyes was Moyes.... clones are unlikely - they find the guy they want and support him as best they can and that is not the same as outright financial help. The strength of Moyes is that (as in business) sometimes the unavailability of one option drives you to work and succeed with others. At Manure, Moyes will have the panacea of "we can always buy"....
2. Help set the tone with the fanbase as to what should be reasonably expected. Where will this years money actually be spent - y on Debt Interest AND repayment; z on transfers...x on Stadium refurb etc

The Fanbase MUST recognise:
1. We are not going to win the title
2. The goal is to continually improve... but that might not happen immediately
3. The manager must always have the support for what is being done
4. We need to accept the results good or bad for a while as we bed in....
5. No manager has ever become experienced without having being inexperienced before.

External cnadidates can have a lot to offer.... Pereira is very beguiling, with a successful story with Everton and a supportive board what makes you think he will not be attractive to a CL Move (if we just fall outside as per recent years). Martinez has the experience and the humility to recognise our strengths and to build upon them... but again in 2-3 years time will we be fighting them off as Wigan have done for a few years

Internal candidates could be as good if not better becasue there is the real inbuilt loyalty... unless a Manure/Chelski/Arse position comes up or similar in Europe we can be more certain that they stick around.

Every Manager with the right support will be successful, if we as a collective group Manager, Club and Fanbase can come together then we might still have a surprise or two going forward.

Pereira/Martinez or Neville/Weir/Stubbs/Round?

The biggest problem with the internal route is that there are a number of candidates and only one position.... that might casue a resentment

Well said Uwie on all points. I'm tempted to look at our history (because if you know your history.... etc)

Mike Walker - flavour of the month, had taken an unfashionable team to europe, and they played good football.... he was an abject failure. So any flavour of the month appointments should be taken with a pinch of realism - getting into the prem (Mackay), or even staying in the prem (Martinez - oh hang on!), is not the same as challenging for a european place (as this is what we will be realistically aiming for)

Walter Smith - won lots with rangers because its a two horse race - won feck all with everton, despite a prodigious selling and buying policy. Neil Lennon is only in a one horse race and he's struggled with that sometimes. Harry and Fat Sam love wheeling and dealing and they are experienced managers, but despite their experience and their whinging moaning faces, they are in it for the short term and there is a reason they have had loads of clubs.

Colin Harvey - lovely fella, did well as youth team and reserve coach and then as first team coach - but was too mild timid to step up to first team coach. Out of the four ex players mentioned who are still at the club, Stubbs is probably closest to Harvey - nice fella, maybe a great coach, but not a manager. The others probably dont have the necessary experience, but I would say that Pip has had two great teachers.... although Mark Hughes was taught by fergie as well wasnt he....

So the answer is... Fucked if I know!

We shoud probably go for a young lower league manager who is a strict diciplinarian and can get his team playing hard working football - Dougie Freedman?

In fact if we go for Freedman who effectively went back to palace for his first full managerial job (after spells as youth team coach and assistant manager for southend?) then you may as well appoint one of the in-house 4.....PIP!!!!! Just saying like

Which managers have actually been successful (in the long term) in the PL recently?

Fergie. Previous experience: managing an unfashionable side in Scotland to trophies.
Wenger. Previous experience: small time French management

Err... Umm.. well all the Chelsea managers have been sacked, as have all the Citteh managers. Rafa fluked two trophies at the Shite on pens and spent about a quarter of a billion quid on players. Pardew had one good season. O'Neil was flavour of the month for years until everyone realised he was actually shit. Same with Mark Hughes. Same with Owen Coyle. Same with etc etc. Harry Redknapp was lucky to escape jail.

Moyes could be considered a success but he won fuck all in 11 years at Everton. Martinez has won a trophy but his side got relegated the same season. Laudrup has won a trophy but he's ruled himself out and is probably destined for Spain anyway.

Fact is, there is really no such thing as a successful manager. They all fail in the end except Fergie.

So it doesn't really matter who we get as long as he doesn't get us relegated and he flukes a trophy. Chances are he'll be gone in a few seasons anyway and we'll be going through this again.

Assuming all the above to be true, I'd like a manager who can take what Moyes has done and add some style and a decent striker. That's unlikely to be an internal candidate as they are all defenders apart from big Dunc who is a fucking nutter.

Martinez all the way. If he's available, anything else would be wilfully stupid on the part of the club.

hairy cataract wrote:Which managers have actually been successful (in the long term) in the PL recently?

Fergie. Previous experience: managing an unfashionable side in Scotland to trophies.
Wenger. Previous experience: small time French management

Err... Umm.. well all the Chelsea managers have been sacked, as have all the Citteh managers. Rafa fluked two trophies at the Shite on pens and spent about a quarter of a billion quid on players. Pardew had one good season. O'Neil was flavour of the month for years until everyone realised he was actually shit. Same with Mark Hughes. Same with Owen Coyle. Same with etc etc. Harry Redknapp was lucky to escape jail.

Moyes could be considered a success but he won fuck all in 11 years at Everton. Martinez has won a trophy but his side got relegated the same season. Laudrup has won a trophy but he's ruled himself out and is probably destined for Spain anyway.

Fact is, there is really no such thing as a successful manager. They all fail in the end except Fergie.

So it doesn't really matter who we get as long as he doesn't get us relegated and he flukes a trophy. Chances are he'll be gone in a few seasons anyway and we'll be going through this again.

Assuming all the above to be true, I'd like a manager who can take what Moyes has done and add some style and a decent striker. That's unlikely to be an internal candidate as they are all defenders apart from big Dunc who is a fucking nutter.

Martinez all the way. If he's available, anything else would be wilfully stupid on the part of the club.

Wigan are even shitter (and a league lower) now then when he took over. Other managers have done much more with similar amounts of money. Maybe he would be a success at Everton, but his track record at Wigan suggests otherwise.

Armchair Evertonian wrote:

hairy cataract wrote:Which managers have actually been successful (in the long term) in the PL recently?

Fergie. Previous experience: managing an unfashionable side in Scotland to trophies.
Wenger. Previous experience: small time French management

Err... Umm.. well all the Chelsea managers have been sacked, as have all the Citteh managers. Rafa fluked two trophies at the Shite on pens and spent about a quarter of a billion quid on players. Pardew had one good season. O'Neil was flavour of the month for years until everyone realised he was actually shit. Same with Mark Hughes. Same with Owen Coyle. Same with etc etc. Harry Redknapp was lucky to escape jail.

Moyes could be considered a success but he won fuck all in 11 years at Everton. Martinez has won a trophy but his side got relegated the same season. Laudrup has won a trophy but he's ruled himself out and is probably destined for Spain anyway.

Fact is, there is really no such thing as a successful manager. They all fail in the end except Fergie.

So it doesn't really matter who we get as long as he doesn't get us relegated and he flukes a trophy. Chances are he'll be gone in a few seasons anyway and we'll be going through this again.

Assuming all the above to be true, I'd like a manager who can take what Moyes has done and add some style and a decent striker. That's unlikely to be an internal candidate as they are all defenders apart from big Dunc who is a fucking nutter.

Martinez all the way. If he's available, anything else would be wilfully stupid on the part of the club.

Wigan are even shitter (and a league lower) now then when he took over. Other managers have done much more with similar amounts of money. Maybe he would be a success at Everton, but his track record at Wigan suggests otherwise.

He won the FA Cup and he's consistently played with great style despite having to rebuild his team every season thanks to losing players like Baines, Moses etc.

Wigan were going to go down eventually, whoever was in charge. He would inherit a solid defence at Everton and a relatively settled squad. He's clearly an intelligent manager - he comprehensively out-thought Mancini (and Moyes for that matter) in the FA Cup - and he deserves a shot. As Laudrup is out of the running, I really don't see why he wouldn't be first choice.