Newcastle v Everton

They've wanted it so much more than us.

those Saudi cunts bouncing up & down make me want to vom

we can only hope that Norwich, Burnley & Watford stay more shit than us for the run in

Barcodes hit the post & then JP saves the follow up

4 added minutes of no hope

Guimaraes on for the club he used to support as a boy.

Saint M should make it four

Made 4 Gwladys wrote:Saint M should make it four

We've got nowhere near him all game.

West Ham 1-0 Watford FT

FT 3-1

bollocks

Mina & Gray injured too

we really are deep in the shit now


Leeds on Saturday

goodnight lads

Brutal shite.

Welcome to mission impossible Frankie Boy.

Toon won their cup final - we need to win ours on Saturday v Leeds.

15 Leeds 21 -16 22
16 Everton 21 -13 19
17 Newcastle 22 -20 18
18 Norwich 22 -32 16
19 Watford 22 -18 15
20 Burnley 20 -11 14

seriously think we are fucked this season

I'm likely not even going to bother watching the "highlights".

We were battered. Totally outfought. Gave away possession way too often. Defence was a creaking shambles.

Burnley pick up a point against Man Utd.

We don't really look up for a relegation scrap. Only real hope is that Lampard gets us playing decent football quick enough for us to pick up enough points at home. That was pretty woeful though. Not sure we had an attempt on goal, other than the goal scramble.

any news on the Mina & Gray injuries ?

Newcastle were excellent. They fed on our passivity and incompetence and totally owned us by the end. They'll comfortably finish mid-table this season, but I doubt if many of those players will still be in their first team in a couple of years.

We were appalling. At least Gordon tried hard, but if the game had gone on much longer he'd have been sent off - he was getting so frustrated. Other than that, Donny the Beak looked a player, but the rest were weak. Including Lampard - why bring on Dele who looked like the groundsman called on from his fag break and was surprised to see he was playing in a professional football game, when you had DCL on the bench? Surely the logical change when Gray was injured was to shift Richie into his position, which is his usual place, and stick Dominic up front? Madness.

That game laid bare the terrible business we did in the January window. We lost an experienced left-back, and bought a kid from Rangers, a left-back who has cried off with a bad-back and maybe-covid, Dele Alli who is not just a waste of fucking space but is actually going to cost a team goals like he did last night when he gave the ball away, and a Villa reject who nobody can actually remember asking for. DvdB might be a good call but that's about it. We have no competent central defenders apart from a sick note, and watching Seamus trying to keep pace with Saint Maximin was very sad.

We are fucking doomed if Burnley, Watford or Norwich string together a couple of wins. I'm praying that Brentford get dragged into it, and maybe Leeds, but I don't think anyone has the combination of endless injuries and terrible players that we have.

I love me footy, but it can be a painful thing being an Everton fan. I'm struggling to think of when I last felt this bad about it.

To be fair we were well on top until Gray and Mina went off. Mina is comfortably our best centre half but sadly made of paper. Still no excuse for what followed.

hairy cataract wrote:Newcastle were excellent.  They fed on our passivity and incompetence and totally owned us by the end.  They'll comfortably finish mid-table this season, but I doubt if many of those players will still be in their first team in a couple of years.

We were appalling.  At least Gordon tried hard, but if the game had gone on much longer he'd have been sent off - he was getting so frustrated.  Other than that, Donny the Beak looked a player, but the rest were weak. Including Lampard - why bring on Dele who looked like the groundsman called on from his fag break and was surprised to see he was playing in a professional football game, when you had DCL on the bench?  Surely the logical change when Gray was injured was to shift Richie into his position, which is his usual place, and stick Dominic up front?  Madness.

That game laid bare the terrible business we did in the January window.  We lost an experienced left-back, and bought a kid from Rangers, a left-back who has cried off with a bad-back and maybe-covid, Dele Alli who is not just a waste of fucking space but is actually going to cost a team goals like he did last night when he gave the ball away, and a Villa reject who nobody can actually remember asking for.  DvdB might be a good call but that's about it.  We have no competent central defenders apart from a sick note, and watching Seamus trying to keep pace with Saint Maximin was very sad.

We are fucking doomed if Burnley, Watford or Norwich string together a couple of wins.  I'm praying that Brentford get dragged into it, and maybe Leeds, but I don't think anyone has the combination of endless injuries and terrible players that we have.

I love me footy, but it can be a painful thing being an Everton fan.  I'm struggling to think of when I last felt this bad about it.

Watched Patterson for the under 23s a week or two back and he is rapid, looked a lot more complete than most of the other players. He should be getting some game time sooner or later.

Also, how did that londis nosferatu shelvey stay on the pitch? https://twitter.com/FinKitch/status/1491165145644806145

Tonteau wrote:

hairy cataract wrote:Newcastle were excellent.  They fed on our passivity and incompetence and totally owned us by the end.  They'll comfortably finish mid-table this season, but I doubt if many of those players will still be in their first team in a couple of years.

We were appalling.  At least Gordon tried hard, but if the game had gone on much longer he'd have been sent off - he was getting so frustrated.  Other than that, Donny the Beak looked a player, but the rest were weak. Including Lampard - why bring on Dele who looked like the groundsman called on from his fag break and was surprised to see he was playing in a professional football game, when you had DCL on the bench?  Surely the logical change when Gray was injured was to shift Richie into his position, which is his usual place, and stick Dominic up front?  Madness.

That game laid bare the terrible business we did in the January window.  We lost an experienced left-back, and bought a kid from Rangers, a left-back who has cried off with a bad-back and maybe-covid, Dele Alli who is not just a waste of fucking space but is actually going to cost a team goals like he did last night when he gave the ball away, and a Villa reject who nobody can actually remember asking for.  DvdB might be a good call but that's about it.  We have no competent central defenders apart from a sick note, and watching Seamus trying to keep pace with Saint Maximin was very sad.

We are fucking doomed if Burnley, Watford or Norwich string together a couple of wins.  I'm praying that Brentford get dragged into it, and maybe Leeds, but I don't think anyone has the combination of endless injuries and terrible players that we have.

I love me footy, but it can be a painful thing being an Everton fan.  I'm struggling to think of when I last felt this bad about it.

Watched Patterson for the under 23s a week or two back and he is rapid, looked a lot more complete than most of the other players. He should be getting some game time sooner or later.

Also, how did that londis nosferatu shelvey stay on the pitch? https://twitter.com/FinKitch/status/1491165145644806145

Yes, I watched that and he was really impressive. But that was the U23s, he was playing against other kids. Would he have been able to contain Saint Maximin? Probably would have been no worse than Seamus to be fair.

Ref was poor, but then he also missed a few of our snide fouls. We are depressingly predictable in that regard - particularly Gomes, you just know at some point in every game he will pull a player back and get a yellow.

I'm really getting worried about the Leeds game on Saturday. They fight like fuck, and are powerful. They'll overrun us. Gomes and Allan is a disaster of a midfield against teams like this, but we have so few other options.

hairy cataract wrote:

Tonteau wrote:

hairy cataract wrote:Newcastle were excellent.  They fed on our passivity and incompetence and totally owned us by the end.  They'll comfortably finish mid-table this season, but I doubt if many of those players will still be in their first team in a couple of years.

We were appalling.  At least Gordon tried hard, but if the game had gone on much longer he'd have been sent off - he was getting so frustrated.  Other than that, Donny the Beak looked a player, but the rest were weak. Including Lampard - why bring on Dele who looked like the groundsman called on from his fag break and was surprised to see he was playing in a professional football game, when you had DCL on the bench?  Surely the logical change when Gray was injured was to shift Richie into his position, which is his usual place, and stick Dominic up front?  Madness.

That game laid bare the terrible business we did in the January window.  We lost an experienced left-back, and bought a kid from Rangers, a left-back who has cried off with a bad-back and maybe-covid, Dele Alli who is not just a waste of fucking space but is actually going to cost a team goals like he did last night when he gave the ball away, and a Villa reject who nobody can actually remember asking for.  DvdB might be a good call but that's about it.  We have no competent central defenders apart from a sick note, and watching Seamus trying to keep pace with Saint Maximin was very sad.

We are fucking doomed if Burnley, Watford or Norwich string together a couple of wins.  I'm praying that Brentford get dragged into it, and maybe Leeds, but I don't think anyone has the combination of endless injuries and terrible players that we have.

I love me footy, but it can be a painful thing being an Everton fan.  I'm struggling to think of when I last felt this bad about it.

Watched Patterson for the under 23s a week or two back and he is rapid, looked a lot more complete than most of the other players. He should be getting some game time sooner or later.

Also, how did that londis nosferatu shelvey stay on the pitch? https://twitter.com/FinKitch/status/1491165145644806145

Yes, I watched that and he was really impressive.  But that was the U23s, he was playing against other kids. Would he have been able to contain Saint Maximin?  Probably would have been no worse than Seamus to be fair.  

Ref was poor, but then he also missed a few of our snide fouls.  We are depressingly predictable in that regard - particularly Gomes, you just know at some point in every game he will pull a player back and get a yellow.

I'm really getting worried about the Leeds game on Saturday.  They fight like fuck, and are powerful.  They'll overrun us.  Gomes and Allan is a disaster of a midfield against teams like this, but we have so few other options.  

our defensive options are now terrifying for the Leeds game... I mean 4-4-2 with Holgate & keane in the middle is scary, not to even think about the full backs... I can't see 3 in the back middle at all now... Branthwaite, Keane & Holgate makes me shiver

Made 4 Gwladys wrote:

hairy cataract wrote:

Tonteau wrote:

hairy cataract wrote:Newcastle were excellent.  They fed on our passivity and incompetence and totally owned us by the end.  They'll comfortably finish mid-table this season, but I doubt if many of those players will still be in their first team in a couple of years.

We were appalling.  At least Gordon tried hard, but if the game had gone on much longer he'd have been sent off - he was getting so frustrated.  Other than that, Donny the Beak looked a player, but the rest were weak. Including Lampard - why bring on Dele who looked like the groundsman called on from his fag break and was surprised to see he was playing in a professional football game, when you had DCL on the bench?  Surely the logical change when Gray was injured was to shift Richie into his position, which is his usual place, and stick Dominic up front?  Madness.

That game laid bare the terrible business we did in the January window.  We lost an experienced left-back, and bought a kid from Rangers, a left-back who has cried off with a bad-back and maybe-covid, Dele Alli who is not just a waste of fucking space but is actually going to cost a team goals like he did last night when he gave the ball away, and a Villa reject who nobody can actually remember asking for.  DvdB might be a good call but that's about it.  We have no competent central defenders apart from a sick note, and watching Seamus trying to keep pace with Saint Maximin was very sad.

We are fucking doomed if Burnley, Watford or Norwich string together a couple of wins.  I'm praying that Brentford get dragged into it, and maybe Leeds, but I don't think anyone has the combination of endless injuries and terrible players that we have.

I love me footy, but it can be a painful thing being an Everton fan.  I'm struggling to think of when I last felt this bad about it.

Watched Patterson for the under 23s a week or two back and he is rapid, looked a lot more complete than most of the other players. He should be getting some game time sooner or later.

Also, how did that londis nosferatu shelvey stay on the pitch? https://twitter.com/FinKitch/status/1491165145644806145

Yes, I watched that and he was really impressive.  But that was the U23s, he was playing against other kids. Would he have been able to contain Saint Maximin?  Probably would have been no worse than Seamus to be fair.  

Ref was poor, but then he also missed a few of our snide fouls.  We are depressingly predictable in that regard - particularly Gomes, you just know at some point in every game he will pull a player back and get a yellow.

I'm really getting worried about the Leeds game on Saturday.  They fight like fuck, and are powerful.  They'll overrun us.  Gomes and Allan is a disaster of a midfield against teams like this, but we have so few other options.  

our defensive options are now terrifying for the Leeds game... I mean 4-4-2 with Holgate & keane in the middle is scary, not to even think about the full backs... I can't see 3 in the back middle at all now... Branthwaite, Keane & Holgate makes me shiver

Branthwaite looked like Bambi on Ice last night. But he might be getting a run of games at this rate. My team for Saturday, assuming Gray, Mina and all the rest are out, would probably be:
Pickford
Patterson (for his pace) Keane Branthwaite Mykolenko (assuming he hasn't got covid)
Allan Gomes (is there any other option? Gbamin perhaps?) VDB
Gordon DCL Richarlison

If Myolenko is out, the I guess it will have to be a three at the back again
Pickford
Holgate Keane Branthwaite
Patterson Townsend
VDB Allan
Gordon DCL Richarlison