Re: 25: Marouane Fellaini - Short, Back, in Side

toffee_pies Wed 10 Jun 2009, 10:49 am

Cahill the Great wrote:Really unfair to compare Fellaini with Moutinho as they are completely different type players.

The point with Fellaini is that he is still developing while Moutinho is perhaps in his peak. Ive no doubt Fellaini will go on to get better and better with each season. People forget he's just a kid who cant speak English whose still managed to net 9 goals following a huge step up from the Belgian league in just under a season. Its a phenominal achievement really.

We all know Fellaini's overall team contribution needs to improve but once you get this we will have a frightening player on our hands - who could potentially eclipse the contrbution that Tim Cahill has made over the past few seasons.

Someone else posted on this thread that if we had to sell anyone it would be Tim Cahill. I would have to agree with this for the reason he's nearly 30 now and still flying around every few weeks to play for Australia. I have really big concerns that he can no longer pull this off and feel that Tim could be finished in 2 years if he doesnt make some tough decisions soon. We could get £10m now for him but his value would diminish each season.

Moutinho's only 22 bit early to be hitting his peak

Other than that agree with everything else you have said

Cahill the Great Wed 10 Jun 2009, 10:56 am

For some reason I thought Mout was about 26/27.

Top Balcony Blue Wed 10 Jun 2009, 10:57 am

It's not so much a player ability comparison, but more of what they would bring to the table for a fully fit Everton side. We've spoken about the need to retain the ball to beat the very best, particularly after the cup final, and Moutinho would seemingly fit that bill......

.....aah who I am kidding I only posted it to piss Dixie off Very Happy

MagicMike Wed 10 Jun 2009, 11:02 am

Top Balcony Blue wrote:It's not so much a player ability comparison, but more of what they would bring to the table for a fully fit Everton side. We've spoken about the need to retain the ball to beat the very best, particularly after the cup final, and Moutinho would seemingly fit that bill......

.....aah who I am kidding I only posted it to piss Dixie off

But a 'first choice' Everton is still an abstract idea. It does not factor in the opposition or the conditions of play. There are certain games and certain sides that you'd prefer Fellaini to play in or against, because of what he adds. Whereas other games other qualities or required or other combinations of players needed.

Now more than ever it is a squad game and so a 'first choice' eleven doesn't really exist.

Top Balcony Blue Wed 10 Jun 2009, 11:10 am

MagicMike wrote:
Top Balcony Blue wrote:It's not so much a player ability comparison, but more of what they would bring to the table for a fully fit Everton side. We've spoken about the need to retain the ball to beat the very best, particularly after the cup final, and Moutinho would seemingly fit that bill......

.....aah who I am kidding I only posted it to piss Dixie off
But a 'first choice' Everton is still an abstract idea. It does not factor in the opposition or the conditions of play. There are certain games and certain sides that you'd prefer Fellaini to play in or against, because of what he adds. Whereas other games other qualities or required or other combinations of players needed.

Now more than ever it is a squad game and so a 'first choice' eleven doesn't really exist.

It would be ideal to have both, but we're skint. The way you would have to look at it is what player would bring the most to the team during the season. If we're assuming that Fellaini is our first choice partner for Yak in that second striker role then you'd be weakening one area to strengthen another, so it would be pointless. But I'm not sure Moyes sees Fellaini remaining in that role, given that we have Cahill, Saha, Vaughan and maybe another CF coming in.

Therefore, as the thread asks, would you dispense with Fellaini in a central role for Moutinho. There is no right or wrong, just trying to create ~~arguments~~ ~~dummy-spitting~~ debate as the board has become Sleep

over the past few weeks

The Griffin Wed 10 Jun 2009, 11:36 am

Dixie Land wrote:Get to fuck.

Fellaini has proved himself in the Premier League which is faster and more physical than any other league in Europe. Also, what was the score in this tie over 2 legs??? About 10,0000-nil if Im not mistaken.... OK 7-1... that is 7-1 or 7-1 or 7-1 . For people who cannot read numbers that is SEVEN - ONE. or SEVEN - ONE or SEVEN FUCKING BASTARD ONE . That means once again that the team with Moutinho scored ONE and the team WITHOUT Moutinho scored SEVEN!!! thats SEVEN erm... thats FUCKING SEVEN!!!!!!!!

1,2,3,4,5,6, FUCKING SEVEN ..... 7...... 7...... SEVEN SEVEN SEVEN SEVEN SEVEN.......

7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7

Personally, I dont remember Fellaini playing in a side that conceeded SEVEN fucking goals.

Come on lads, wake up.

He may have scored a wonder goal but so did Michael Owen and he is still a cunt.

I want to sign Moutinho but not just because I have seen a 1 minute video on YouTwat. Fellaini has proved himself over the course of a season for Christs sake. Even Stephen Hunt looks good on the highlight show......

INFACT.... DIDNT DWIGHT YORKE SCORE A GOAL AGAINST US WHEN WE BEAT SUNDERLAND 7-1??????

SIGN HIM UP DAVIE... HE MUST BE FUCKING GOOD.

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Albert Wed 10 Jun 2009, 12:36 pm

i asked this about a month ago. get your own questions.

yes i probably would - going foward i cant see where he will fit in if we sign a few more players - seems incapable of playing in a 4-4-2.

i dont think he's a bad player -i'd just take 15 million for him

Top Balcony Blue Wed 10 Jun 2009, 12:39 pm

treblA wrote:i asked this about a month ago. get your own questions.

yes i probably would - going foward i cant see where he will fit in if we sign a few more players - seems incapable of playing in a 4-4-2.

i dont think he's a bad player -i'd just take 15 million for him

did you?

did dixie have a panic attack when you asked it as well

Albert Wed 10 Jun 2009, 12:50 pm

Top Balcony Blue wrote:
treblA wrote:i asked this about a month ago. get your own questions.

yes i probably would - going foward i cant see where he will fit in if we sign a few more players - seems incapable of playing in a 4-4-2.

i dont think he's a bad player -i'd just take 15 million for him

did you?

did dixie have a panic attack when you asked it as well

i think dixie said 5 million and he'd drive fellaini to the airport himself. fickle bastard.

callmebubbles Wed 10 Jun 2009, 12:51 pm

He's shit, get rid, Moyles out! Very Happy

Dixie Land Wed 10 Jun 2009, 6:53 pm

treblA wrote:
Top Balcony Blue wrote:
treblA wrote:i asked this about a month ago. get your own questions.

yes i probably would - going foward i cant see where he will fit in if we sign a few more players - seems incapable of playing in a 4-4-2.

i dont think he's a bad player -i'd just take 15 million for him

did you?

did dixie have a panic attack when you asked it as well

i think dixie said 5 million and he'd drive fellaini to the airport himself. fickle bastard.

Good bite TBB. I think 4 litres of Scrumpy helped as bait. Very Happy

Bluey Wed 10 Jun 2009, 7:08 pm

15 million euros is a lot (for us) to pay for a midfielder. I don't think he was Moyes first choice but with the timing of the money he was compromised as to what to go for.

Overall what did we get from him? A cult following for a start, which is not bad for a 21 year old. A lot of goals for a first season including the Shite and ManU, so not easy oppo's.

His hold up play puts forward players to shame.

I think he has had a decent first season for us. Only the internet forums claim that Moutinho claim this is what Moyes currently is after. In short we don't know. I would not swap Fellaini though for an untried foreign player.

But the main reason we should keep him is because he winds up Hairy..

hairy cataract Wed 10 Jun 2009, 7:32 pm

Deffo keep him. He's big, he's shit, and he's got mad hair.

Every team needs a player like that. Worth every penny.

Bluey Wed 10 Jun 2009, 7:54 pm

hairy cataract wrote:Deffo keep him. He's big, he's shit, and he's got mad hair.

Every team needs a player like that. Worth every penny.

Priceless..

callmebubbles Thu 11 Jun 2009, 9:21 am

In the end, teams trying to break into the top 4 will need a strong squad, not just a strong first XI. Fellaini or Cahill will probably be on the bench if everyone is fit, which would be bloody brilliant!! If our bench is suddenly having the likes of Saha, Vaughan, Cahill or Fellaini, Yobo, then we're moving in the right direction. The more current first teamers who feel under pressure for their place, the better it is. Keep him and use him where needed, I wouldn't sell.

Blue_Monkey Fri 12 Jun 2009, 8:42 pm

Dixie Land wrote:Get to fuck.

Fellaini has proved himself in the Premier League which is faster and more physical than any other league in Europe. Also, what was the score in this tie over 2 legs??? About 10,0000-nil if Im not mistaken.... OK 7-1... that is 7-1 or 7-1 or 7-1 . For people who cannot read numbers that is SEVEN - ONE. or SEVEN - ONE or SEVEN FUCKING BASTARD ONE . That means once again that the team with Moutinho scored ONE and the team WITHOUT Moutinho scored SEVEN!!! thats SEVEN erm... thats FUCKING SEVEN!!!!!!!!

1,2,3,4,5,6, FUCKING SEVEN ..... 7...... 7...... SEVEN SEVEN SEVEN SEVEN SEVEN.......

7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7

Personally, I dont remember Fellaini playing in a side that conceeded SEVEN fucking goals.

Come on lads, wake up.

He may have scored a wonder goal but so did Michael Owen and he is still a cunt.

I want to sign Moutinho but not just because I have seen a 1 minute video on YouTwat. Fellaini has proved himself over the course of a season for Christs sake. Even Stephen Hunt looks good on the highlight show......

INFACT.... DIDNT DWIGHT YORKE SCORE A GOAL AGAINST US WHEN WE BEAT SUNDERLAND 7-1??????

SIGN HIM UP DAVIE... HE MUST BE FUCKING GOOD.

BEST. POST. EVER.

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Bluey Fri 12 Jun 2009, 8:48 pm

Dixie scrumpyland!

Dixie Land Fri 12 Jun 2009, 9:26 pm

I thank you all.

Im here pissed up 4 nights a week. Very Happy

Im made up by that rant though. Perhaps the proudest moment of my life. 25: Marouane Fellaini - Short, Back, in Side - Page 3 F_laugh

Bryan Fri 12 Jun 2009, 11:19 pm

YouTwat. Haha.

Very Happy

Dixie Land Sat 13 Jun 2009, 12:12 am

Bryan wrote:YouTwat. Haha.

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Proud of that one Bry. Wink

Bluey Sat 13 Jun 2009, 12:59 am

Dixie Land wrote:

I thank you all.

Im here pissed up 4 nights a week.

Im made up by that rant though. Perhaps the proudest moment of my life.

Legend..

Top Balcony Blue Sat 13 Jun 2009, 11:13 am

Dixie Land wrote:

I thank you all.

Im here pissed up 4 nights a week.

Im made up by that rant though. Perhaps the proudest moment of my life.

I bet you were sat there swigging yer scrumpy in nothing but your scruds and your fellaini wig were you? afro

Dixie Land Sun 14 Jun 2009, 10:51 pm

Top Balcony Blue wrote:
Dixie Land wrote:

I thank you all.

Im here pissed up 4 nights a week.

Im made up by that rant though. Perhaps the proudest moment of my life.

I bet you were sat there swigging yer scrumpy in nothing but your scruds and your fellaini wig were you?

Thats completely wrong TBB. Take it back!!!

I wasnt wearing any scruds. Very Happy

Tonteau Mon 03 Aug 2009, 10:39 am

http://www.evertonfc.com/news/archive/fellaini-virus-worry.html

Looks like he's been ill the whole of the summer, moyes not sure he'll be 100% for the new season.

We are shit out of luck right now.

callmebubbles Mon 03 Aug 2009, 10:57 am

Tonteau wrote:http://www.evertonfc.com/news/archive/fellaini-virus-worry.html

Looks like he's been ill the whole of the summer, moyes not sure he'll be 100% for the new season.

We are shit out of luck right now.

Have we ever had any?? Crying or Very sad

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