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Post  Armchair Tue 05 Apr 2016, 1:24 pm

Cahill the Great wrote:
Blue gazza wrote:
sefton wrote:
Blue gazza wrote:Is he still here, or has he been sacked yet


He is killing our club

https://www.change.org/p/everton-martinez-out?recruiter=521301752&utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=facebook&utm_campaign=share_page&utm_term=des-lg-share_petition-custom_msg&fb_ref=Default

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Sutton having another massive pop at Martinez on Talksport

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p03q1j8n

Not sure who the other guest was but his "United were very, very poor and Everton did really well to be poorer" made me laugh.

Anyway, it's good that the media are having the same thoughts that we are regarding Bobby and team. A penny for BK's thoughts (and a billion pennies for Moshiri's)...
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Post  Blue gazza Thu 07 Apr 2016, 12:12 pm

Manchester City boss Manuel Pellegrini, who will be replaced by Pep Guardiola in the summer, is in talks with Valencia about succeeding Gary Neville as the club's manager. (Star)
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Post  Made 4 Gwladys Thu 07 Apr 2016, 12:14 pm

Blue gazza wrote:Manchester City boss Manuel Pellegrini, who will be replaced by Pep Guardiola in the summer, is in talks with Valencia about succeeding Gary Neville as the club's manager. (Star)
Come on Moshi .... SIGN HIM !!!

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Post  Statman Thu 07 Apr 2016, 4:08 pm

Moshi Foo Gwladys wrote:
Blue gazza wrote:Manchester City boss Manuel Pellegrini, who will be replaced by Pep Guardiola in the summer, is in talks with Valencia about succeeding Gary Neville as the club's manager. (Star)
Come on Moshi .... SIGN HIM !!!

Really? You just want to have Pelle in your username don't you?

His performance at Citeh has been underwhelming for me. I know that he won the Premiership in his first season but Bobby did well in his first season as well.
Since then his signings have been woeful (De Bruyne excepted).


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Post  Made 4 Gwladys Thu 07 Apr 2016, 4:28 pm

Statman wrote:
Moshi Foo Gwladys wrote:
Blue gazza wrote:Manchester City boss Manuel Pellegrini, who will be replaced by Pep Guardiola in the summer, is in talks with Valencia about succeeding Gary Neville as the club's manager. (Star)
Come on Moshi .... SIGN HIM !!!

Really? You just want to have Pelle in your username don't you?

His performance at Citeh has been underwhelming for me. I know that he won the Premiership in his first season but Bobby did well in his first season as well.
Since then his signings have been woeful (De Bruyne excepted).


I'd take Doris the tea lady or Hairy's most used goat as manager instead of the current half wit

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Post  SEFTON Thu 07 Apr 2016, 4:56 pm

Moshi Foo Gwladys wrote:
Statman wrote:
Moshi Foo Gwladys wrote:
Blue gazza wrote:Manchester City boss Manuel Pellegrini, who will be replaced by Pep Guardiola in the summer, is in talks with Valencia about succeeding Gary Neville as the club's manager. (Star)
Come on Moshi .... SIGN HIM !!!

Really? You just want to have Pelle in your username don't you?

His performance at Citeh has been underwhelming for me. I know that he won the Premiership in his first season but Bobby did well in his first season as well.
Since then his signings have been woeful (De Bruyne excepted).


I'd take Doris the tea lady or Hairy's most used goat as manager instead of the current half wit

I would like the opportunity to become Evertons Manager for one season, I would sack all the over 34's,Keep Robels-Lennon and Mr Honesty Leighton Baines, tell all that want a transfer to do one, bring in the Youngsters ,Bring back the meaning of wearing the blue shirt,whose in support ?

Ok, I'll get me coat. Laughing

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Post  Armchair Fri 08 Apr 2016, 7:16 am

Kevin Ratcliffe has a dig at Bobby as well:

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/kevin-ratcliffe-leighton-baines-right-11155264
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Post  SEFTON Fri 08 Apr 2016, 10:36 am

https://twitter.com/JM1TTY/status/718223582736855041
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Post  Knight of Thorgothshire Fri 08 Apr 2016, 1:14 pm

sefton wrote:https://twitter.com/JM1TTY/status/718223582736855041
Spot on.
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Post  Goodison_Gringo Fri 08 Apr 2016, 4:06 pm

sefton wrote:https://twitter.com/JM1TTY/status/718223582736855041

Wow!

I'm not convinced some of our players are as good as people think they are, but still we should be on the fringes of 4th.

It seems even the most patient, myself included, have turned against the Bobby Clown now. Enough is enough.
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Post  Lumper Sat 09 Apr 2016, 10:31 am

Goodison_Gringo wrote:
sefton wrote:https://twitter.com/JM1TTY/status/718223582736855041

Wow!

I'm not convinced some of our players are as good as people think they are, but still we should be on the fringes of 4th.

It seems even the most patient, myself included, have turned against the Bobby Clown now. Enough is enough.

Never liked him but thought after the first season that I'd been proven wrong. Pity I wasn't because his attacking style of football is easy on the eye. I've seen his biggest supporters turn on him in the last few months. His time should be up, if we don't win the FA cup he'll be gone.
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Post  Made 4 Gwladys Sun 10 Apr 2016, 1:49 pm

anyone know how long the clown has got left on his contract... I doubt we'll have the balls to sack the twat but there would be uproar if we renewed with the prick

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Post  Armchair Sun 10 Apr 2016, 1:52 pm

Lumper wrote:
Goodison_Gringo wrote:
sefton wrote:https://twitter.com/JM1TTY/status/718223582736855041

Wow!

I'm not convinced some of our players are as good as people think they are, but still we should be on the fringes of 4th.

It seems even the most patient, myself included, have turned against the Bobby Clown now. Enough is enough.

Never liked him but thought after the first season that I'd been proven wrong. Pity I wasn't because his attacking style of football is easy on the eye. I've seen his biggest supporters turn on him in the last few months. His time should be up, if we don't win the FA cup he'll be gone.

I'd sack him even if we win the cup. 14th place is abysmal.
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Post  Knight of Thorgothshire Sun 10 Apr 2016, 3:04 pm

Moshi Foo Gwladys wrote:anyone know how long the clown has got left on his contract... I doubt we'll have the balls to sack the twat but there would be uproar if we renewed with the prick
I want to say he signed a 5 year deal after the end of the 2014 season, so he has 3 more years.
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Post  Made 4 Gwladys Sun 10 Apr 2016, 3:11 pm

Knight of Thorgothshire wrote:
Moshi Foo Gwladys wrote:anyone know how long the clown has got left on his contract... I doubt we'll have the balls to sack the twat but there would be uproar if we renewed with the prick
I want to say he signed a 5 year deal after the end of the 2014 season, so he has 3 more years.
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Post  Armchair Sun 10 Apr 2016, 3:37 pm

Good article in the Daily Wail

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3532345/Roberto-Martinez-lost-Everton-fans-words-running-time-save-job-talks-good-game-damage-pitch.html
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Post  Barry Horne's Equaliser Mon 11 Apr 2016, 8:33 am

Armchair wrote:Good article in the Daily Wail

affraid

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Post  Armchair Mon 11 Apr 2016, 10:20 am

Everton have sounded out former Argentina and Chile boss Marcelo Bielsa to be their next manager. (Goal.com - in Portuguese)
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Post  RhinoJagz Mon 11 Apr 2016, 10:23 am

Armchair wrote:Everton have sounded out former Argentina and Chile boss Marcelo Bielsa to be their next manager. (Goal.com - in Portuguese)

Swansea had sounded him out after sacking Monk. Doesn't speak English so would find it tough to impose himself. No thanks

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Post  Armchair Mon 11 Apr 2016, 1:50 pm

Armchair wrote:Everton have sounded out former Argentina and Chile boss Marcelo Bielsa to be their next manager. (Goal.com - in Portuguese)

Or not: http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/everton-not-approached-marcelo-bielsa-11167748
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Post  Goodison_Gringo Mon 11 Apr 2016, 3:15 pm

Here's still here I see. Every Monday morning I open BBC Sport in hope.
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Post  hairy cataract Tue 12 Apr 2016, 12:56 pm

Today's press conference sounds like a classic.  Martinez on being asked who is to blame for his team's poor form, replies:

There is no such thing as blame

You have to admire the cunt in a way, he's actually now out-bullshitting Brendan Rogers at his absolute peak. And that takes some fucking doing.
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Post  SEFTON Tue 12 Apr 2016, 2:26 pm

You have to admire the pure cheek of Martinez,In saying ? He's done the same thing for last seven years ,Yep, Battling relegation with Wigan and now keeping Everton just short of the bowels the Premiership.

I'm sure Mr Farhad Moshiri is willing to part with his millions(NOT) just to see Mr In-consistent Squander his money.
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Post  Barry Horne's Equaliser Tue 12 Apr 2016, 3:01 pm

sefton wrote:You have to admire the pure cheek of Martinez,In saying ? He's done the same thing for last seven years ,Yep, Battling relegation with Wigan and now keeping Everton just short of the bowels the Premiership.

I'm sure Mr Farhad Moshiri is willing to part with his millions(NOT) just to see Mr In-consistent Squander his money.

I think that's largely his problem. When things are going badly he just keeps doing the same thing in the hope that something will change.

Aside from the ability of the individual players, football is also a confidence game and occasionally a change in attitude is required to scrap out a few wins - it can get some confidence back in the squad and also build some team spirit which is clearly lacking (even if Baines has apologised for saying as much).

He seems so incapable of getting the players to roll up their sleeves and dig in, he discourages it in fact. The first season was great because there was no noticeable dip, but the last two have been really poor and that is largely down to his inability to halt a slide. He's demonstrated that he's not prepared to change his approach even when the results are screaming out for it, so it's time for him to go now.

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Post  Goodison_Gringo Tue 12 Apr 2016, 3:22 pm

Barry Horne's Equaliser wrote:
sefton wrote:You have to admire the pure cheek of Martinez,In saying ? He's done the same thing for last seven years ,Yep, Battling relegation with Wigan and now keeping Everton just short of the bowels the Premiership.

I'm sure Mr Farhad Moshiri is willing to part with his millions(NOT) just to see Mr In-consistent Squander his money.

I think that's largely his problem. When things are going badly he just keeps doing the same thing in the hope that something will change.

Aside from the ability of the individual players, football is also a confidence game and occasionally a change in attitude is required to scrap out a few wins - it can get some confidence back in the squad and also build some team spirit which is clearly lacking (even if Baines has apologised for saying as much).

He seems so incapable of getting the players to roll up their sleeves and dig in, he discourages it in fact. The first season was great because there was no noticeable dip, but the last two have been really poor and that is largely down to his inability to halt a slide. He's demonstrated that he's not prepared to change his approach even when the results are screaming out for it, so it's time for him to go now.

Yes, he's a stubborn fuck. I presume it's an ego thing, rather than a lack of intelligence. Moyes was stubborn too but at least he learnt to adapt, albeit slowly. It's a shame, as if Martinez was prepared to listen to advice he could have been our best manager since the 80's.
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