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Post  Cahill the Great Thu 23 Jul 2015 - 12:44

Doc( Ninetoes )blue wrote:No new bid so I guess that means they have made a bid and we have expected it on the condition that it's not made public


The silence from our club, player and agents tells you everything. Expect Stones to be parading a Chelsea shirt with-in the next couple of weeks.
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Post  Da Judge Thu 23 Jul 2015 - 12:57

Cahill the Great wrote:
Doc( Ninetoes )blue wrote:No new bid so I guess that means they have made a bid and we have expected it on the condition that it's not made public


The silence from our club, player and agents tells you everything.   Expect Stones to be parading a Chelsea shirt with-in the next couple of weeks.

Why do we need to make any comment? We are in a strong position. I know a lot of other fans (travelling with cabbies all over UK/Europe) are pretty peeved at how Chelsea are doing business. We do not need to say anything ... he is not for sale - he is an Everton player under contract and that he is a valued young player of immense potential. If you are not accepting our rebuttals and are in interested in finding a price then look at the market place and Stones is in the same bracket (if not higher than Mr Sterling).

Sooner or later we will get to the point where deals like this represent significant down payments for any Stadium rebuild.

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Post  Yankthattoffee Thu 23 Jul 2015 - 14:04

Da Judge wrote:
Cahill the Great wrote:
Doc( Ninetoes )blue wrote:No new bid so I guess that means they have made a bid and we have expected it on the condition that it's not made public


The silence from our club, player and agents tells you everything.   Expect Stones to be parading a Chelsea shirt with-in the next couple of weeks.

Why do we need to make any comment? We are in a strong position. I know a lot of other fans (travelling with cabbies all over UK/Europe) are pretty peeved at how Chelsea are doing business. We do not need to say anything ... he is not for sale - he is an Everton player under contract and that he is a valued young player of immense potential. If you are not accepting our rebuttals and are in interested in finding a price then look at the market place and Stones is in the same bracket (if not higher than Mr Sterling).

Sooner or later we will get to the point where deals like this represent significant down payments for any Stadium rebuild.
For clubs like ourselves it's the attitude of entitlement that irritates when the like of United and Chel$ea come calling.
Now the other Chelsea players and press join in like a pincer movement, and job done.
So Evans at number 5 then.

btw, if the Stones money bought Xherdan Shaqiri and Evans would you be disappointed?
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Post  Mr_Ben Thu 23 Jul 2015 - 14:50

Yankthattoffee wrote:
Da Judge wrote:
Cahill the Great wrote:
Doc( Ninetoes )blue wrote:No new bid so I guess that means they have made a bid and we have expected it on the condition that it's not made public


The silence from our club, player and agents tells you everything.   Expect Stones to be parading a Chelsea shirt with-in the next couple of weeks.

Why do we need to make any comment? We are in a strong position. I know a lot of other fans (travelling with cabbies all over UK/Europe) are pretty peeved at how Chelsea are doing business. We do not need to say anything ... he is not for sale - he is an Everton player under contract and that he is a valued young player of immense potential. If you are not accepting our rebuttals and are in interested in finding a price then look at the market place and Stones is in the same bracket (if not higher than Mr Sterling).

Sooner or later we will get to the point where deals like this represent significant down payments for any Stadium rebuild.
For clubs like ourselves it's the attitude of entitlement that irritates when the like of United and Chel$ea come calling.
Now the other Chelsea players and press join in like a pincer movement, and job done.
So Evans at number 5 then.

btw, if the Stones money bought Xherdan Shaqiri and Evans would you be disappointed?

Not if we bought a decent young (22-26 year old) CB who his proven at a high level too. Evans would be a decent back up to Jags and New Boy.

However as noted in a number of papers. Why would Everton who only have 2 recognised CBs sell one of them.

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Post  Cahill the Great Thu 23 Jul 2015 - 15:11

Da Judge wrote:
Cahill the Great wrote:
Doc( Ninetoes )blue wrote:No new bid so I guess that means they have made a bid and we have expected it on the condition that it's not made public


The silence from our club, player and agents tells you everything.   Expect Stones to be parading a Chelsea shirt with-in the next couple of weeks.

Why do we need to make any comment? We are in a strong position. I know a lot of other fans (travelling with cabbies all over UK/Europe) are pretty peeved at how Chelsea are doing business. We do not need to say anything ... he is not for sale - he is an Everton player under contract and that he is a valued young player of immense potential. If you are not accepting our rebuttals and are in interested in finding a price then look at the market place and Stones is in the same bracket (if not higher than Mr Sterling).

Sooner or later we will get to the point where deals like this represent significant down payments for any Stadium rebuild.


We'll here nothing on this for a while and then the next headline we hear will be Stones submits official transfer request. Then Chelsea get their man after the board decide not to keep a player at the club who doesnt want to be there. Rooney, Lescott saga all over again Im afraid.
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Post  Goodison_Gringo Thu 23 Jul 2015 - 15:35

Cahill the Great wrote:
Da Judge wrote:
Cahill the Great wrote:
Doc( Ninetoes )blue wrote:No new bid so I guess that means they have made a bid and we have expected it on the condition that it's not made public


The silence from our club, player and agents tells you everything.   Expect Stones to be parading a Chelsea shirt with-in the next couple of weeks.

Why do we need to make any comment? We are in a strong position. I know a lot of other fans (travelling with cabbies all over UK/Europe) are pretty peeved at how Chelsea are doing business. We do not need to say anything ... he is not for sale - he is an Everton player under contract and that he is a valued young player of immense potential. If you are not accepting our rebuttals and are in interested in finding a price then look at the market place and Stones is in the same bracket (if not higher than Mr Sterling).

Sooner or later we will get to the point where deals like this represent significant down payments for any Stadium rebuild.

Nobody knows. Maybe it's another Baines scenario.


We'll here nothing on this for a while and then the next headline we hear will be Stones submits official transfer request.   Then Chelsea get their man after the board decide not to keep a player at the club who doesnt want to be there.    Rooney, Lescott saga all over again Im afraid.  
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Post  Blue gazza Fri 24 Jul 2015 - 18:06

twitter rumours

apparently, man city are prepared to go up to £60 million for stones affraid affraid

cannot turn that down......can we ?
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Post  Armchair Fri 24 Jul 2015 - 18:30

Blue gazza wrote:twitter rumours

apparently, man city are prepared to go up to £60 million for stones affraid affraid

cannot turn that down......can we ?

Deal!

We could buy a lot of Wigan players for that. In fact, we could buy the whole town of Wigan.
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Post  Knight of Thorgothshire Fri 24 Jul 2015 - 19:18

Blue gazza wrote:twitter rumours

apparently, man city are prepared to go up to £60 million for stones affraid affraid

cannot turn that down......can we ?
The world is fooking mad.... pale pale pale pale
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Post  Knight of Thorgothshire Fri 24 Jul 2015 - 19:19

Armchair wrote:
Blue gazza wrote:twitter rumours

apparently, man city are prepared to go up to £60 million for stones affraid affraid

cannot turn that down......can we ?

Deal!

We could buy a lot of Wigan players for that. In fact, we could buy the whole town of Wigan.
Sign Dave Whelan!!!!
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Post  Doc( Ninetoes )blue Fri 24 Jul 2015 - 19:19

If he goes to shitty he won't be the player he could be!!
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Post  Armchair Fri 24 Jul 2015 - 20:04

Doc( Ninetoes )blue wrote:If he goes to shitty he won't be the player he could be!!

The next Jack Rodwell.
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Post  RhinoJagz Sat 25 Jul 2015 - 12:52

Surely any deal should envolve a 1-2 season loan back to give him sufficient game time?

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Post  Mr_Ben Sat 25 Jul 2015 - 16:55

Bluejagz wrote:Surely any deal should envolve a 1-2 season loan back to give him sufficient game time?

Doubt it. He'll get enough at Chelsea. He is a proven England international. So he should be up there with Cahill.

I presume JT would get most cup games and post Champion's League games off too.
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Post  The President Mon 27 Jul 2015 - 0:37

Chelsea will make their second bid for Everton defender John Stones, 21, within the next 48 hours, offering £24m after a £20m bid was rejected. ( Daily Mirror)
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Post  Blue gazza Mon 27 Jul 2015 - 2:44

The President wrote:Chelsea will make their second bid for Everton defender John Stones, 21, within the next 48 hours, offering £24m after a £20m bid was rejected. ( Daily Mirror)

you are taking the piss, double it and i will still laugh,
yours

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Post  Barry Horne's Equaliser Mon 27 Jul 2015 - 9:30

Blue gazza wrote:
The President wrote:Chelsea will make their second bid for Everton defender John Stones, 21, within the next 48 hours, offering £24m after a £20m bid was rejected. ( Daily Mirror)

you are taking the piss, double it and i will still laugh,  
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Don't worry - it's the Daily Mirror whose overall accuracy regarding predicting transfers regarding Everton stands at around 0%.

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Post  Mr_Ben Mon 27 Jul 2015 - 14:59

GBP26M according to the Guardian.

He'll be gone soon.
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Post  Super Mon 27 Jul 2015 - 15:05

Mr_Ben wrote:GBP26M according to the Guardian.

He'll be gone soon.

Until we start getting mentioned with the following players, he will not be going anywhere.

Donervon Daniels
Craig Morgan
James Perch
Leon Barnett
Jason Pearce
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Post  Doc( Ninetoes )blue Mon 27 Jul 2015 - 15:15

Super wrote:
Mr_Ben wrote:GBP26M according to the Guardian.

He'll be gone soon.

Until we start getting mentioned with the following players, he will not be going anywhere.

Donervon Daniels
Craig Morgan
James Perch
Leon Barnett
Jason Pearce


We could keep him for another season and still get more then that! Must be worth £30+m
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Post  Yankthattoffee Mon 27 Jul 2015 - 16:15

Doc( Ninetoes )blue wrote:
Super wrote:
Mr_Ben wrote:GBP26M according to the Guardian.

He'll be gone soon.

Until we start getting mentioned with the following players, he will not be going anywhere.

Donervon Daniels
Craig Morgan
James Perch
Leon Barnett
Jason Pearce


We could keep him for another season and still get more then that! Must be worth £30+m
I thought that of Barkley 12 months ago, now...............
If we can get a tried and tested CB in his mid 20s, plus a fab player in the hole/slot, for the money we make, then so be it.
I expect a second season dip for Stones, but sad to see him go.
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Post  Doc( Ninetoes )blue Mon 27 Jul 2015 - 16:19

Yankthattoffee wrote:
Doc( Ninetoes )blue wrote:
Super wrote:
Mr_Ben wrote:GBP26M according to the Guardian.

He'll be gone soon.

Until we start getting mentioned with the following players, he will not be going anywhere.

Donervon Daniels
Craig Morgan
James Perch
Leon Barnett
Jason Pearce


We could keep him for another season and still get more then that! Must be worth £30+m
I thought that of Barkley 12 months ago, now...............
If we can get a tried and tested CB in his mid 20s, plus a fab player in the hole/slot, for the money we make, then so be it.
I expect a second season dip for Stones, but sad to see him go.

I get what you mean but I don't see stones having a blip! Time will tell I guess ( if he stays with us )
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Post  Armchair Mon 27 Jul 2015 - 16:27

We don't need the money so unless the offer is silly (£40m+) or Stones throws his toys out of the pram and refuses to play for us (he seems reasonably level-headed so not likely), we should tell the Chavs to take a hike.

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Post  hairy cataract Mon 27 Jul 2015 - 16:48

I can't imagine a situation in which we would sell Stones for less than £30m in this transfer window. Ideally, keep him but, if he does end up asking to speak to Chelsea or Man City, then I would expect Bill to ask for not far short of £40m and settle for the mid-thirties including some perforance related stuff and maybe a makeweight in exchange.
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Post  Doc( Ninetoes )blue Mon 27 Jul 2015 - 17:03

The problem is if he asks to go and we say ok 35m chelski say nope 26m then stones says we are pricing him out of a move.......I just hope he says he wants to stay but when does that happen now days?
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