Brentford v Everton

we'll lose... 4-0 probably right Hairy. I don't care as no points is no points regardless of how many we lose by.

fucking awful

oh yeah... Maupey is sure to score

booo

I'm not sure what else he can be saying to be honest, he has to walk a tightrope between being honest and not doing his team and his players down in public.

That said, I also get irritated by the regular disclaimer that "the effort was there". This is the absolute minimum that fans expect from their highly-paid heroes. If we're using that as a positive to take from yet another defeat then the barrel is being well and truly scraped. We're not that far away from "well, all 11 players turned up for the match day coach on time and only three of them were hungover, which is nice, an improvement on last week after Tarko's barbecue got a bit out of hand". It would be nice to hear a bit more info on where we are genuinely improving, maybe point out some things that aren't obvious to those of us not at Finch Farm all week. But Dyche, like most managers, probably sees these interviews as chores that just need to be got out of the way with a few well-worn clichés and catchphrases.

Fuck building regs, I might build my next house extension myself. I can assure you that the effort will be there, I'll work 10-12 hours per day solid, to build that thing. OK so it will be a dangerous, condemned wreck upon completion, because I don't know what the fuck I'm doing to ensure it's strong enough to survive a storm or, indeed, a large relative leaning against the wall. But the effort will be there. When the council tell me to demolish it I'll just point out that there were just a couple of minor details to iron out at either end - specifically that the foundations are only two inches deep and the roof is held on with Gorilla glue. But you can't bemoan the effort.

SEFTON wrote:Nothing changes on this board ,the negativity is rife, well got news for you all?
We will get three points tomorrow,Beto will get a brace we win 0-2 .

UTFTs

Err, there's a reason for this, Sef! We are dog shit. Objectively fucking awful.

I admire your optimism though, let's hope that we defy form and logic and prove you right. I am now the self-appointed chief executive of the Play Beto And DCL Together club, and I will declare personal jihad on Dyche if he doesn't do this soon. We may as well, eh?

I can't lie though, I find any kind of Everton optimism baffling right now. My lad emerged from his pit (bedroom) yesterday to declare that he too is feeling confident about the Brentford game. He does this every week, last weekend he was telling me his masterplan to batter Arsenal. I looked at him like he'd just told me the moon is made of toast. I don't know where his optimism comes from. He doesn't remember us finishing 4th and all he's had to cling on to in his 24 years on this mortal coil are a few respectable seasons under Moyes, Bobby's first season, and that fortnight under Carlo when we were top (hilarious to think that was only three years ago, incidentally). His optimism makes me laugh, breaks my heart and pisses me off in equal measure.

Very occasionally, I will sheepishly ask him if he's fucked off with me for imposing this weekly desolation on him. I think I would actually prefer it if he turned round and said "well, yeah, to be honest I do think you're a bit of a cunt for dumping this hereditary misery on me, you've ruined my life. Twat." That would confirm to me that he's thinking straight. Instead he looks at me as though he doesn't understand the question. Born not manufactured. The club and the fanbase will survive long after the current custodians have taken their cut and fucked off. We just may have to see football hell on earth first, before we achieve our nirvana. Storm's a-comin', but the storm will pass.

Yeah, I've had a drink. It's Friday.

So anyway, I do admire the Everton optimists, honestly. Until very recently I counted myself as one. But I resigned from that club once I ran out of any semblance of logic to back up my optimism.

With all that said....I do have this funny feeling that we'll be better away this season than at home. Sorry, season ticket holders. Or maybe that should read "we'll be less awful away than at home". There's something about how we play, how Dyche plays, that makes me think that we'll have more chance when the home team has to take the initiative, and we have more reason to just sit deep and keep it tight and hit DCL AND BETO on the counter. And the more Branthwaite and Tarko play together, the more I think we might just be able to tighten up a bit at the back.

And they're missing Toney and Henry, two players who have caused us many an issue in the past....So fuck it. Brentford 1 (Maupay) Everton 4 (DCL 2, Beto 2). Let's fucking do this, and logic be damned. The optimist in me fights back.

(Nurse, can I have some more of that medication that you gave me an hour ago please? Yeah the one that tastes like cherryade. That hit the spot.)

what's the problem

COYB

SEFTON wrote:Nothing changes on this board ,the negativity is rife, well got news for you all?
We will get three points tomorrow,Beto will get a brace we win 0-2 .

UTFTs

All hail King Sef. Patron Saint of optimists.

Tempted to add Brentford to the relegation mix after that. Don't want to take any gloss from our victory but they were shite.

Rotterdam 1985 wrote:

SEFTON wrote:Nothing changes on this board ,the negativity is rife, well got news for you all?
We will get three points tomorrow,Beto will get a brace we win 0-2 .

UTFTs

All hail King Sef. Patron Saint of optimists.

I've watched MoTD and seen some further highlights. I was tempted to go into a bit of detail here as to what I thought we did well today, what still worries me, etc etc.

But nah. I'm just going to enjoy that rare high of an Everton win for another few days without overthinking it. The missus walked into the room earlier, where me and my lad were watching the Burnley v Man U game, and commented that we were talking as though we were drunk. That was at about 8.30, I was on my first glass. Everton does that to you. Specifically, Everton wins, when they are so rare.

It's only one win, the problems haven't gone away. But the performance, even more than the points, give me some reason for hope. And someone said on Twitter tonight that we took Beto off and put DCL on, and the threat to their back line wasn't diminished in any way. That's a good point. As long as they both stay fit...

I maintain that points on the road might be what keeps us up this season.

Yankthattoffee wrote:Don't any of you start claiming that you're great optimists.
Did any of you predict a EFC win on this week's tipster? No you did not.
I claim optimist of the week award.
It's amazing what a single win can do for your weekend.

Sef had a 0-2 win, so you lose Yank