13 - Neal Maupay - next best thing to useless

Knight of Thorgothshire wrote:I'm starting to feel a bit for him. He's at least now getting into the right spots, but just insists on trying to strike the ball through the goalie instead of picking a corner. He should have had 2 goals yesterday, Duke 1, and we win 3-1. But it wasn't to be.

I know we are rather critical, or arguably rightly so, of his performances, but the abuse his social media account(s) has (have) received is uncalled for. We're better than that.

Then this crops up and let's consider this loan....

Everton sign Jack Harrison on loan from Leeds United
Striker had looked likely to join Leicester City in January, instead signed a new deal at Leeds, but has now moved to Goodison Parkial media account(s) has (have) received is uncalled for. We're better than that.[/quote]

Didn't see this one coming...

He'll be great for them, you just know it. Team set up to play to his strengths. Leaves us very weak in the wide forward area.

Tonteau wrote:He'll be great for them, you just know it. Team set up to play to his strengths. Leaves us very weak in the wide forward area.

There has to be someone else coming in. Groundhog Day I know - I'd have said the same thing on this board both in January and deadline day a year ago - but we can't let depth like Maupay and Cannon go without replacing them with something.

Remember that the Saudi transfer deadline is next week, so even if Gray doesn't go today, he could be gone next week.

So as things stand in respect of forward positions, we've brought in Beto, Chermiti, Harrison and Danjuma. We've let go (or are about to let go) Simms, Cannon, Iwobi, Maupay and probably Gray. But we're not supposed to be simply replicating what we had last season, in terms of both numbers and quality. We're supposed to try and get better. Which we've done in the number 9 position, but I still think we're at least one forward light.

Just as I was warming to him....

Does seem like we are upgrading player by player rather than increasing the depth of the squad. Harrison for Iwobi, Danjuma for Maupay, Young for my sadly deceased nan, maybe Gnonto for Gray, Beto for the invisible man, Branthwaite for Mina, Chermiti for Cannon, a packet of crisps for Holgate. Have I missed anyone?

hairy cataract wrote:Just as I was warming to him....

Does seem like we are upgrading player by player rather than increasing the depth of the squad.   Harrison for Iwobi, Danjuma for Maupay, Young for my sadly deceased nan, maybe Gnonto for Gray, Beto for the invisible man, Branthwaite for Mina, Chermiti for Cannon, a packet of crisps for Holgate.  Have I missed anyone?

(also RIP )

It appears it's like for like, not like we didn't have massive struggles with squad depth last season, though. I guess we have a few players with not much time on their contracts probably earning quite fat wages, so a clearout seems sensible. Just looked like Dyche had found a place for Maupay working with Danjuma/Beto against Doncaster. Bit of a shame as I was willing him to come good.

Tonteau wrote:

hairy cataract wrote:Just as I was warming to him....

Does seem like we are upgrading player by player rather than increasing the depth of the squad.   Harrison for Iwobi, Danjuma for Maupay, Young for my sadly deceased nan, maybe Gnonto for Gray, Beto for the invisible man, Branthwaite for Mina, Chermiti for Cannon, a packet of crisps for Holgate.  Have I missed anyone?

(also RIP   )

It appears it's like for like, not like we didn't have massive struggles with squad depth last season, though. I guess we have a few players with not much time on their contracts probably earning quite fat wages, so a clearout seems sensible. Just looked like Dyche had found a place for Maupay working with Danjuma/Beto against Doncaster. Bit of a shame as I was willing him to come good.

To be fair, my nan died 30 years ago, but it's taken Everton that long to replace her.  Typical really.

What I do know is the statistically strong ex-Maupuy effect. Once Maupuy leaves a club, that club in the following season achieves its highest performance in the Premiership.Fingers crossed

hairy cataract wrote:Just as I was warming to him....

Does seem like we are upgrading player by player rather than increasing the depth of the squad.   Harrison for Iwobi, Danjuma for Maupay, Young for my sadly deceased nan, maybe Gnonto for Gray, Beto for the invisible man, Branthwaite for Mina, Chermiti for Cannon, a packet of crisps for Holgate.  Have I missed anyone?

Lil Tom. Coady. Townsend.

Yankthattoffee wrote:

hairy cataract wrote:Just as I was warming to him....

Does seem like we are upgrading player by player rather than increasing the depth of the squad.   Harrison for Iwobi, Danjuma for Maupay, Young for my sadly deceased nan, maybe Gnonto for Gray, Beto for the invisible man, Branthwaite for Mina, Chermiti for Cannon, a packet of crisps for Holgate.  Have I missed anyone?

Lil Tom. Coady. Townsend.

With no more incomings (which seems to be looking likely), and Maupay, Cannon and Iwobi probablyl outgoing, we look a but fucked on numbers. This year, we'll have sold or got rid of Gordon, Mina, Davies, Simms, Cannon, Iwobi, Maupay, Begovic, Gray, Holgate, Coady and Townsend, and brought in Harrison, Danjuma, Beto, Young and Chermiti. And Branthwaite & Virginia back from loan I suppose. That's 12 out and seven in isn't it? Or have I missed anyone?

hairy cataract wrote:

Yankthattoffee wrote:

hairy cataract wrote:Just as I was warming to him....

Does seem like we are upgrading player by player rather than increasing the depth of the squad.   Harrison for Iwobi, Danjuma for Maupay, Young for my sadly deceased nan, maybe Gnonto for Gray, Beto for the invisible man, Branthwaite for Mina, Chermiti for Cannon, a packet of crisps for Holgate.  Have I missed anyone?

Lil Tom. Coady. Townsend.

With no more incomings (which seems to be looking likely), and Maupay, Cannon and Iwobi probablyl outgoing, we look a but fucked on numbers.  This year, we'll have sold or got rid of Gordon, Mina, Davies, Simms, Cannon, Iwobi, Maupay, Begovic, Gray, Holgate, Coady and Townsend, and brought in Harrison, Danjuma, Beto, Young and Chermiti.  And Branthwaite & Virginia back from loan I suppose.  That's 12 out and seven in isn't it?  Or have I missed anyone?

Maybe Dyche has confidence in a few young uns.
Dobbin for one, but little else tat we've seen.
Either that or we are even more severely fecked with our finances.
Coukd there be a turn around with Iwobi and Gray, and they stay?

Yankthattoffee wrote:

hairy cataract wrote:

Yankthattoffee wrote:

hairy cataract wrote:Just as I was warming to him....

Does seem like we are upgrading player by player rather than increasing the depth of the squad.   Harrison for Iwobi, Danjuma for Maupay, Young for my sadly deceased nan, maybe Gnonto for Gray, Beto for the invisible man, Branthwaite for Mina, Chermiti for Cannon, a packet of crisps for Holgate.  Have I missed anyone?

Lil Tom. Coady. Townsend.

With no more incomings (which seems to be looking likely), and Maupay, Cannon and Iwobi probablyl outgoing, we look a but fucked on numbers.  This year, we'll have sold or got rid of Gordon, Mina, Davies, Simms, Cannon, Iwobi, Maupay, Begovic, Gray, Holgate, Coady and Townsend, and brought in Harrison, Danjuma, Beto, Young and Chermiti.  And Branthwaite & Virginia back from loan I suppose.  That's 12 out and seven in isn't it?  Or have I missed anyone?

Maybe Dyche has confidence in a few young uns.
Dobbin for one, but little else tat we've seen.
Either that or we are even more severely fecked with our finances.
Coukd there be a turn around with Iwobi and Gray, and they stay?

I feel a bit of a fool for allowing myself to think that this deadline day would be different.

Until about 10am this morning, this felt like an OK window. Then we started shipping players out left right and centre, with no apparent rush to replace them. The old sinking feeling returned.

So, once again, one moderately bad injury crisis in Feb or March could see us completely and utterly fucked.

Beto or not, I'm back to my relegation acceptance zen state.

BTW Yank, in answer to your thoughts around the youngsters being our saviours, this is how the U-21s have started their season...

Rotterdam 1985 wrote:BTW Yank, in answer to your thoughts around the youngsters being our saviours, this is how the U-21s have started their season...

That’s cos all the good ones have been drafted into the first team or sold.

Tonteau wrote:

Rotterdam 1985 wrote:BTW Yank, in answer to your thoughts around the youngsters being our saviours, this is how the U-21s have started their season...

That’s cos all the good ones have been drafted into the first team or sold.

Yeah and Iwobi goes to Fulham at 1:00am. Go figure.
No time for a replacement.
Just nuts.

Loose Cannon.


and....we get nothing for this guy

"Everton midfielder Jean-Philippe Gbamin has left the club a year before the end of his deal.

The 27-year-old joined from Mainz for £25m in 2019 but only played eight games in an injury-ridden spell.

He can now find a new club outside of the transfer window."

Yankthattoffee wrote:

Tonteau wrote:

Rotterdam 1985 wrote:BTW Yank, in answer to your thoughts around the youngsters being our saviours, this is how the U-21s have started their season...

That’s cos all the good ones have been drafted into the first team or sold.

Yeah and Iwobi goes to Fulham at 1:00am. Go figure.
No time for a replacement.
Just nuts.

Loose Cannon.


and....we get nothing for this guy

"Everton midfielder Jean-Philippe Gbamin has left the club a year before the end of his deal.

The 27-year-old joined from Mainz for £25m in 2019 but only played eight games in an injury-ridden spell.

He can now find a new club outside of the transfer window."

I just read on Twitter that Ashley Young has already played more first team minutes for Everton than Gbamin ever managed. In four years.

 We'll laugh about all this one day.

just back from 10 days in Spain & avoiding all football apart from listening to the Everton games on the OS feed... which was traumatic in it's own right !

Maupey gone ... wow he'll be missed

4 goals in his last 4 games for Brentford the twatty little frog prick.... hope they buy the cunt now.

Made 4 Gwladys wrote:4 goals in his last 4 games for Brentford the twatty little frog prick.... hope they buy the cunt now.

Dunno if you saw it but him and Maddison had a spat last night, because Maupay nicked his darts goal celebration when he scored.

Some chinwagging went on as Maupay was being subbed, and then Maddison said in the post-match interview that Maupay doesn't score enough goals to have his own celebration, so had to nick his.

Maupay then replied on social media with "more career goals and fewer relegations than Maddison."

Happens all the time in the NFL and I would like more of this in footy. Random spats between random players. I want to see Ben Chilwell calling out Chris Wood's inability to play snooker, or Doucoure telling Hojbjerg on Twitter that he's got a fat arse. For no reason. Spice the game up, and give us something other than VAR or PL corruption to talk about.

"BREAKING: VILLA ACE WATKINS SLAMS TROSSARD'S NEW GARDEN MAKEOVER."

Rotterdam 1985 wrote:

Made 4 Gwladys wrote:4 goals in his last 4 games for Brentford the twatty little frog prick.... hope they buy the cunt now.

Dunno if you saw it but him and Maddison had a spat last night, because Maupay nicked his darts goal celebration when he scored.

Some chinwagging went on as Maupay was being subbed, and then Maddison said in the post-match interview that Maupay doesn't score enough goals to have his own celebration, so had to nick his.

Maupay then replied on social media with "more career goals and fewer relegations than Maddison."

Happens all the time in the NFL and I would like more of this in footy. Random spats between random players. I want to see Ben Chilwell calling out Chris Wood's inability to play snooker, or Doucoure telling Hojbjerg on Twitter that he's got a fat arse. For no reason. Spice the game up, and give us something other than VAR or PL corruption to talk about.

"BREAKING: VILLA ACE WATKINS SLAMS TROSSARD'S NEW GARDEN MAKEOVER."

Rotterdam 1985 wrote:

Made 4 Gwladys wrote:4 goals in his last 4 games for Brentford the twatty little frog prick.... hope they buy the cunt now.

Dunno if you saw it but him and Maddison had a spat last night, because Maupay nicked his darts goal celebration when he scored.

Some chinwagging went on as Maupay was being subbed, and then Maddison said in the post-match interview that Maupay doesn't score enough goals to have his own celebration, so had to nick his.

Maupay then replied on social media with "more career goals and fewer relegations than Maddison."

Happens all the time in the NFL and I would like more of this in footy. Random spats between random players. I want to see Ben Chilwell calling out Chris Wood's inability to play snooker, or Doucoure telling Hojbjerg on Twitter that he's got a fat arse. For no reason. Spice the game up, and give us something other than VAR or PL corruption to talk about.

"BREAKING: VILLA ACE WATKINS SLAMS TROSSARD'S NEW GARDEN MAKEOVER."

Genuine lol at that. Savage!

Added a few million to his transfer fee these isn’t few months.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-68293359

Armchair wrote:https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-68293359

There are those who will genuinely believe people like Maupay are fair game, simply because they're shithouses on the pitch. They would be able to equate a footballer strolling off when subbed to waste a bit of time, and threatening to rape that footballer's daughter, quite effortlessly.

It's an interesting one for next time we open the Philosophical Bar - social media being a wonderful way to communicate effortlessly with friends and family around the world, while at the same time sowing the seeds for the destruction of the world as we know it. Social media is a reminder that civilisation and evolution are multi-speed processes, that we still had witchcraft trials in Europe long after the renaissance.

I'd ban it, personally. Keep the internet, like, but ban all social media, it's too dangerous, the cons outweigh the pros. I know this means we'll have to send our Tipster entries to Super via Telegram or Stamped Addressed Envelope but so be it.