13 - Neal Maupay - next best thing to useless
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Re: 13 - Neal Maupay - next best thing to useless
For a club with no money we have spunked the best part of £100m recently on Mykolenko, McNeil, Onana and Maupay. I mean WTF, there is obviously a pick a name and price out of a hat policy at the club. Just astonishing!!!!
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The longish article I posted earlier, finished with "in the end the real question Gordon to Chelsea raises is the most basic one: what is the point these days of Everton football club? Is it to compete, to strive through smart moves and homegrown talent to match the top tier? Or simply to service those entities, to exist as a backdrop?" Something I've heard from some Kopite friends.callmebubbles wrote:For a club with no money we have spunked the best part of £100m recently on Mykolenko, McNeil, Onana and Maupay. I mean WTF, there is obviously a pick a name and price out of a hat policy at the club. Just astonishing!!!!
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Yankthattoffee wrote:The longish article I posted earlier, finished with "in the end the real question Gordon to Chelsea raises is the most basic one: what is the point these days of Everton football club? Is it to compete, to strive through smart moves and homegrown talent to match the top tier? Or simply to service those entities, to exist as a backdrop?" Something I've heard from some Kopite friends.callmebubbles wrote:For a club with no money we have spunked the best part of £100m recently on Mykolenko, McNeil, Onana and Maupay. I mean WTF, there is obviously a pick a name and price out of a hat policy at the club. Just astonishing!!!!
He's an excellent journo is Barney and that was a really good column. However on the point of that specific question, I was annoyed when I first read it. It seemed like journalistic mischief because this is a question that we blues ask ourselves daily and the answer seems so obvious to us, which is that there is no real point to Everton because there is no obvious plan. Short of the "survival until BMD is built" thing, we have zero direction right now. We're building a stadium but we're not building anything else, we're just trying to survive in choppy waters that we, to a large extent, whipped up ourselves. Ergo, selling Gordon is not as illogical as Barney suggests, because these days there is no logic to Everton that can be perverted anyway.
Thinking about it this morning, I'm glad he posed the question. I'd like more journos to ask questions of Everton and the way it runs itself, to be honest. And of course the other question remains, that we also have to start discussing at some point - even if we do survive until BMD is built, then what? The new stadium is not a guaranteed panacea, it will all be for nought if we continue to run the club like a backstreet Man United tribute act. It will just be a more comfortable venue within which we can jump up and shout "you're not fit to wear the shirt."
The great irony in all this is that the people who are delivering our new, world class stadium are the same people we just need to fuck off. "Thanks Farhad, it's lovely, if you can just hand over the keys that will be grand....now fuck off and don't darken our doors again." Now that's a really weird position for any club to be in.
Re: 13 - Neal Maupay - next best thing to useless
At some point we have to trust somebody. For the first time in 6 years, it seems that Mosh has handed the footballing side of things, to Lampard and Thelwell. So in them we trust? Apart from the CBs, FL seems to have gone for youth in his purchasing. If he does manage to get Gueye, another whippet and give Warrington some playing time, maybe we get some kind of identity back. The Kopite friends, have been saying for some time that their team represent the city simply by the name of the team. What and who do EFC represent? It's becoming tougher to answer.Rotterdam 1985 wrote:Yankthattoffee wrote:The longish article I posted earlier, finished with "in the end the real question Gordon to Chelsea raises is the most basic one: what is the point these days of Everton football club? Is it to compete, to strive through smart moves and homegrown talent to match the top tier? Or simply to service those entities, to exist as a backdrop?" Something I've heard from some Kopite friends.callmebubbles wrote:For a club with no money we have spunked the best part of £100m recently on Mykolenko, McNeil, Onana and Maupay. I mean WTF, there is obviously a pick a name and price out of a hat policy at the club. Just astonishing!!!!
He's an excellent journo is Barney and that was a really good column. However on the point of that specific question, I was annoyed when I first read it. It seemed like journalistic mischief because this is a question that we blues ask ourselves daily and the answer seems so obvious to us, which is that there is no real point to Everton because there is no obvious plan. Short of the "survival until BMD is built" thing, we have zero direction right now. We're building a stadium but we're not building anything else, we're just trying to survive in choppy waters that we, to a large extent, whipped up ourselves. Ergo, selling Gordon is not as illogical as Barney suggests, because these days there is no logic to Everton that can be perverted anyway.
Thinking about it this morning, I'm glad he posed the question. I'd like more journos to ask questions of Everton and the way it runs itself, to be honest. And of course the other question remains, that we also have to start discussing at some point - even if we do survive until BMD is built, then what? The new stadium is not a guaranteed panacea, it will all be for nought if we continue to run the club like a backstreet Man United tribute act. It will just be a more comfortable venue within which we can jump up and shout "you're not fit to wear the shirt."
The great irony in all this is that the people who are delivering our new, world class stadium are the same people we just need to fuck off. "Thanks Farhad, it's lovely, if you can just hand over the keys that will be grand....now fuck off and don't darken our doors again." Now that's a really weird position for any club to be in.
(Just put the telly on. In James Anderson we trust!)
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Yankthattoffee wrote:At some point we have to trust somebody. For the first time in 6 years, it seems that Mosh has handed the footballing side of things, to Lampard and Thelwell. So in them we trust? Apart from the CBs, FL seems to have gone for youth in his purchasing. If he does manage to get Gueye, another whippet and give Warrington some playing time, maybe we get some kind of identity back. The Kopite friends, have been saying for some time that their team represent the city simply by the name of the team. What and who do EFC represent? It's becoming tougher to answer.Rotterdam 1985 wrote:Yankthattoffee wrote:The longish article I posted earlier, finished with "in the end the real question Gordon to Chelsea raises is the most basic one: what is the point these days of Everton football club? Is it to compete, to strive through smart moves and homegrown talent to match the top tier? Or simply to service those entities, to exist as a backdrop?" Something I've heard from some Kopite friends.callmebubbles wrote:For a club with no money we have spunked the best part of £100m recently on Mykolenko, McNeil, Onana and Maupay. I mean WTF, there is obviously a pick a name and price out of a hat policy at the club. Just astonishing!!!!
He's an excellent journo is Barney and that was a really good column. However on the point of that specific question, I was annoyed when I first read it. It seemed like journalistic mischief because this is a question that we blues ask ourselves daily and the answer seems so obvious to us, which is that there is no real point to Everton because there is no obvious plan. Short of the "survival until BMD is built" thing, we have zero direction right now. We're building a stadium but we're not building anything else, we're just trying to survive in choppy waters that we, to a large extent, whipped up ourselves. Ergo, selling Gordon is not as illogical as Barney suggests, because these days there is no logic to Everton that can be perverted anyway.
Thinking about it this morning, I'm glad he posed the question. I'd like more journos to ask questions of Everton and the way it runs itself, to be honest. And of course the other question remains, that we also have to start discussing at some point - even if we do survive until BMD is built, then what? The new stadium is not a guaranteed panacea, it will all be for nought if we continue to run the club like a backstreet Man United tribute act. It will just be a more comfortable venue within which we can jump up and shout "you're not fit to wear the shirt."
The great irony in all this is that the people who are delivering our new, world class stadium are the same people we just need to fuck off. "Thanks Farhad, it's lovely, if you can just hand over the keys that will be grand....now fuck off and don't darken our doors again." Now that's a really weird position for any club to be in.
(Just put the telly on. In James Anderson we trust!)
Oh on the question of what we and what the Kopites represent, I'm tempted to go to town on that one. Lengthy post alert! But the missus has told me that I have to put a couple of mirrors up today and she's also booked me a trip to the dump, so it will have to wait. Lucky you. I might make that one an eight-part series.
But they shouldn't be as smug and as superficial as they sound. Represent the city by the name? Fuck off, look at Juventus and Torino, who represents the city at the highest level there through the name? That very point plays into the Super League mindset that their club now represents - the theory that clubs need to appeal to a global audience through name and brand recognition. Fuck that, that's everything that's wrong with modern football.
EFC represents something far deeper and more rooted in what football should mean, but that meaning is currently obscured by the recent years - nay, decades - of gross mismanagement. If we represent anything right now then it's something really quite deep, almost biblical and religious - blind faith in the face of an interminable struggle. There is honour in that, however painful it is. And that's certainly too deep for the average Kopite to understand. In fairness, they don't need to understand it, don't even have to think about it, they can just look at their squad and their trophies. While they're winning things, we're looking for the football equivalent of the meaning of life. I think the Dalai Lama should buy Everton. He gets us.
What was the turning point for us? We had the football world at our feet in 1987. Many people would say Heysel and the European ban. I think it was the day Howard went to Bilbao, which was of course driven in part by the ban and his European ambitions. That's linked to Heysel of course, but I think we'd have ridden that out if HK had stayed to try to create some kind of dynasty. Five years after he left, the PL was founded. We got off the bus a few stops too early.
Anyway, you're right, we have to start trusting someone. I think this transfer window activity has some logic, which we've talked about elsewhere. That's a step in the right direction. Within our limited options, we've had to look for some proven PL ability (Onana excepted) just to get us through the season. On the surface that's uninspiring but it's eminently sensible. What other choice do we have? We can't build a young team right now, we can't take that risk. The time to do that would have been 4/5 years ago, probably during the Marco Silva period.
Re: 13 - Neal Maupay - next best thing to useless
From Richarlison to Maupay in the space of a few months
..just how low can we go !
..just how low can we go !
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I'm hoping he'll be a Marcus Bent type signing.
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Armchair wrote:I'm hoping he'll be a Marcus Bent type signing.
I'm hoping we sign Marcus Bent.
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Rotterdam 1985 wrote:Armchair wrote:I'm hoping he'll be a Marcus Bent type signing.
I'm hoping we sign Marcus Bent.
Just a heads up guys. It is now 'They Marcus LGBTQ', not Marcus Bent. Gotta be careful!!
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callmebubbles wrote:Rotterdam 1985 wrote:Armchair wrote:I'm hoping he'll be a Marcus Bent type signing.
I'm hoping we sign Marcus Bent.
Just a heads up guys. It is now 'They Marcus LGBTQ', not Marcus Bent. Gotta be careful!!
LGBTQ+, you dinosaur
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Goodison_Gringo wrote:callmebubbles wrote:Rotterdam 1985 wrote:Armchair wrote:I'm hoping he'll be a Marcus Bent type signing.
I'm hoping we sign Marcus Bent.
Just a heads up guys. It is now 'They Marcus LGBTQ', not Marcus Bent. Gotta be careful!!
LGBTQ+, you dinosaur
Forgive me, it's my age and the Alzheimers has kicked in. I just woke up....get it??!!....I'll get me coat
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Everton will put French striker Neal Maupay, 26, up for sale in the summer.
Any takers though?
Re: 13 - Neal Maupay - next best thing to useless
Championship team maybe?
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Made 4 Gwladys wrote:should be easy to sell... I mean just look at the impressive stats !!..Knight of Thorgothshire wrote:Everton will put French striker Neal Maupay, 26, up for sale in the summer.
Any takers though?
French dwarf firing blanks for sale... BOGOF with a glass DCL available. 5 quid secures deal.
"Dwarf"?
He's taller than me, ya bastard.
1m71 with football boots or without?
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yeah but you're 123 years old FFS !... and probably scored more goals per minute than him toofourdoors wrote:Made 4 Gwladys wrote:should be easy to sell... I mean just look at the impressive stats !!..Knight of Thorgothshire wrote:Everton will put French striker Neal Maupay, 26, up for sale in the summer.
Any takers though?
French dwarf firing blanks for sale... BOGOF with a glass DCL available. 5 quid secures deal.
"Dwarf"?
He's taller than me, ya bastard.
1m71 with football boots or without?
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"Used johnny for sale. One careful owner. Will consider part-ex for a Lostprophets album."
Re: 13 - Neal Maupay - next best thing to useless
Made 4 Gwladys wrote:yeah but you're 123 years old FFS !... and probably scored more goals per minute than him toofourdoors wrote:Made 4 Gwladys wrote:should be easy to sell... I mean just look at the impressive stats !!..Knight of Thorgothshire wrote:Everton will put French striker Neal Maupay, 26, up for sale in the summer.
Any takers though?
French dwarf firing blanks for sale... BOGOF with a glass DCL available. 5 quid secures deal.
"Dwarf"?
He's taller than me, ya bastard.
1m71 with football boots or without?
Re: 13 - Neal Maupay - next best thing to useless
Made 4 Gwladys wrote:yeah but you're 123 years old FFS !... and probably scored more goals per minute than him toofourdoors wrote:Made 4 Gwladys wrote:should be easy to sell... I mean just look at the impressive stats !!..Knight of Thorgothshire wrote:Everton will put French striker Neal Maupay, 26, up for sale in the summer.
Any takers though?
French dwarf firing blanks for sale... BOGOF with a glass DCL available. 5 quid secures deal.
"Dwarf"?
He's taller than me, ya bastard.
1m71 with football boots or without?
Actually, just one goal in the past decade ... an 85th-minute own-goal to lose us the game
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fourdoors wrote:Made 4 Gwladys wrote:yeah but you're 123 years old FFS !... and probably scored more goals per minute than him toofourdoors wrote:Made 4 Gwladys wrote:should be easy to sell... I mean just look at the impressive stats !!..Knight of Thorgothshire wrote:Everton will put French striker Neal Maupay, 26, up for sale in the summer.
Any takers though?
French dwarf firing blanks for sale... BOGOF with a glass DCL available. 5 quid secures deal.
"Dwarf"?
He's taller than me, ya bastard.
1m71 with football boots or without?
Actually, just one goal in the past decade ... an 85th-minute own-goal to lose us the game
It's only just occurred to me that I don't think I ever scored an own goal, at any level. And I played at the back from about the age of 14 onwards.
Gave away plenty of pens though.
Re: 13 - Neal Maupay - next best thing to useless
why is he still here ?
that's a genuine question !
that's a genuine question !
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...because nobody else is stupid enough to buy the useless piece of crap!!
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true datcallmebubbles wrote:...because nobody else is stupid enough to buy the useless piece of crap!!
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In the Independent...
Almost a century after his 60-goal season, more than four decades after his death, Dixie Dean’s statue is a sign he remains an iconic figure in these parts. It is safe to assume it will not be joined, at Goodison or Bramley-Moore Dock, of a sculpture of Neal Maupay.
A year into his Everton career, Maupay is only 382 Everton goals behind Dean, who got 383; at his current rate of progress, he could go past him early in the 2400s . And if it is automatically unfair to bracket anyone else with Everton’s record scorer, there is a stark contrast. Everton have never been less prolific than they were last season, when their total of 34 league goals was barely more than half the 60 Dean managed on his own in 1927-28. They began the new campaign with an exhibition of how not to finish, with a demoralising home defeat to Fulham and with indications that, unless they discover a clinical touch, another season of grim struggle beckons.
Almost a century after his 60-goal season, more than four decades after his death, Dixie Dean’s statue is a sign he remains an iconic figure in these parts. It is safe to assume it will not be joined, at Goodison or Bramley-Moore Dock, of a sculpture of Neal Maupay.
A year into his Everton career, Maupay is only 382 Everton goals behind Dean, who got 383; at his current rate of progress, he could go past him early in the 2400s . And if it is automatically unfair to bracket anyone else with Everton’s record scorer, there is a stark contrast. Everton have never been less prolific than they were last season, when their total of 34 league goals was barely more than half the 60 Dean managed on his own in 1927-28. They began the new campaign with an exhibition of how not to finish, with a demoralising home defeat to Fulham and with indications that, unless they discover a clinical touch, another season of grim struggle beckons.
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Re: 13 - Neal Maupay - next best thing to useless
I'm starting to feel a bit for him. He's at least now getting into the right spots, but just insists on trying to strike the ball through the goalie instead of picking a corner. He should have had 2 goals yesterday, Duke 1, and we win 3-1. But it wasn't to be.
I know we are rather critical, or arguably rightly so, of his performances, but the abuse his social media account(s) has (have) received is uncalled for. We're better than that.
I know we are rather critical, or arguably rightly so, of his performances, but the abuse his social media account(s) has (have) received is uncalled for. We're better than that.
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