10 - Arnaut Danjuma - 2nd time lucky ?

Rotterdam 1985 wrote:

Knight of Thorgothshire wrote:No news then on this one?

Based on the postings of reporters that I trust, I'm confident this is happening. My assumption is that we're now into that cycle whereby Everton, alone amongst professional sporting entities, take 4 or 5 days to put the promotional "welcome" bideo together. My guess is that Trevor the video guy is on the lash in Magalluf with his mates for a week and nobody else has a key to the video edit suite. Thinking about it, Trevor the video guy seems to go on the lash quite a lot.

Personally I'd settle for a one-line "done deal" message on the OS. I don't actually need to see a vid of Danjuma (sheepishly, in the light of what happened last year) kissing the badge. Like, I wouldn't think any less of the club if they didn't go to the trouble of putting a video together. Just fucking tell us, quickly, you bastards. For our mental health. Remember those back-to-back relegation battles you twats? Yeah so just fucking announce it.

Sorry to labour the point here but has any Evertonian ever uttered words like "great that we've signed Lukaku but I thought the welcome vid was really poor, the lighting wasn't great and the whole vibe generally felt a bit off. Has taken the gloss off of the deal for me TBH."

Spoiler:

hairy cataract wrote:Great first interview on the OS.  For me that's the most important thing.  Sure, goals and assists are nice, but a fluent, intelligent interview is what we're really looking for in a player.

Welcome Arnie!

I think he's going to be fucking brilliant.

Yankthattoffee wrote:

hairy cataract wrote:Great first interview on the OS.  For me that's the most important thing.  Sure, goals and assists are nice, but a fluent, intelligent interview is what we're really looking for in a player.

Welcome Arnie!

I think he's going to be fucking brilliant.

I've always liked a good interviewee. Seamus is top drawer.
Definitely a pretty good signing for us.
I can't quite understand how he's being seen as a replacement for Gray who is possibly off to Fulham for maybe as little as £7M.
Why do we look like getting so little for our number 11?
Surely Arnie should be seen as an addition to the squad rather than filling a likely hole? Gray has pace. THE PL commodity.
Having 3-4 front men with power and pace is the desired requirement for a PL team.

Rotterdam 1985 wrote:

Yankthattoffee wrote:

hairy cataract wrote:Great first interview on the OS.  For me that's the most important thing.  Sure, goals and assists are nice, but a fluent, intelligent interview is what we're really looking for in a player.

Welcome Arnie!

I think he's going to be fucking brilliant.

I've always liked a good interviewee. Seamus is top drawer.
Definitely a pretty good signing for us.
I can't quite understand how he's being seen as a replacement for Gray who is possibly off to Fulham for maybe as little as £7M.
Why do we look like getting so little for our number 11?
Surely Arnie should be seen as an addition to the squad rather than filling a likely hole? Gray has pace. THE PL commodity.
Having 3-4 front men with power and pace is the desired requirement for a PL team.

Gray only has a year left on his contract. I'd definitely prefer to keep him but if they want to make some money on him then they have to sell now, and they'll make four times what they paid for him if the fee is £7m. And if money is tight then £7m may well be the difference between being able to bring in another starter (which Grey won't be even if he stays) or not.

hairy cataract wrote:Great first interview on the OS.  For me that's the most important thing.  Sure, goals and assists are nice, but a fluent, intelligent interview is what we're really looking for in a player.

Welcome Arnie!

I think he's going to be fucking brilliant.

Yankthattoffee wrote:

Rotterdam 1985 wrote:

Yankthattoffee wrote:

hairy cataract wrote:Great first interview on the OS.  For me that's the most important thing.  Sure, goals and assists are nice, but a fluent, intelligent interview is what we're really looking for in a player.

Welcome Arnie!

I think he's going to be fucking brilliant.

I've always liked a good interviewee. Seamus is top drawer.
Definitely a pretty good signing for us.
I can't quite understand how he's being seen as a replacement for Gray who is possibly off to Fulham for maybe as little as £7M.
Why do we look like getting so little for our number 11?
Surely Arnie should be seen as an addition to the squad rather than filling a likely hole? Gray has pace. THE PL commodity.
Having 3-4 front men with power and pace is the desired requirement for a PL team.

Gray only has a year left on his contract. I'd definitely prefer to keep him but if they want to make some money on him then they have to sell now, and they'll make four times what they paid for him if the fee is £7m. And if money is tight then £7m may well be the difference between being able to bring in another starter (which Grey won't be even if he stays) or not.

It's the £7m valuation. Surely more?
I've always liked this guy. Just needed consistency, but maybe it's more than that. Defensive duties, dressing room attitude?
The year that Leicester won the league, Gray was brutal against Baines, yet he still wasn't a regular.
We're back to the Moyes era. 17 players who can play in more than 1 position. Then pray for good health.

Yankthattoffee wrote:

Rotterdam 1985 wrote:

Yankthattoffee wrote:

hairy cataract wrote:Great first interview on the OS.  For me that's the most important thing.  Sure, goals and assists are nice, but a fluent, intelligent interview is what we're really looking for in a player.

Welcome Arnie!

I think he's going to be fucking brilliant.

I've always liked a good interviewee. Seamus is top drawer.
Definitely a pretty good signing for us.
I can't quite understand how he's being seen as a replacement for Gray who is possibly off to Fulham for maybe as little as £7M.
Why do we look like getting so little for our number 11?
Surely Arnie should be seen as an addition to the squad rather than filling a likely hole? Gray has pace. THE PL commodity.
Having 3-4 front men with power and pace is the desired requirement for a PL team.

Gray only has a year left on his contract. I'd definitely prefer to keep him but if they want to make some money on him then they have to sell now, and they'll make four times what they paid for him if the fee is £7m. And if money is tight then £7m may well be the difference between being able to bring in another starter (which Grey won't be even if he stays) or not.

It's the £7m valuation. Surely more?
I've always liked this guy. Just needed consistency, but maybe it's more than that. Defensive duties, dressing room attitude?
The year that Leicester won the league, Gray was brutal against Baines, yet he still wasn't a regular.
We're back to the Moyes era. 17 players who can play in more than 1 position. Then pray for good health.

Rotterdam 1985 wrote:

Yankthattoffee wrote:

Rotterdam 1985 wrote:

Yankthattoffee wrote:

hairy cataract wrote:Great first interview on the OS.  For me that's the most important thing.  Sure, goals and assists are nice, but a fluent, intelligent interview is what we're really looking for in a player.

Welcome Arnie!

I think he's going to be fucking brilliant.

I've always liked a good interviewee. Seamus is top drawer.
Definitely a pretty good signing for us.
I can't quite understand how he's being seen as a replacement for Gray who is possibly off to Fulham for maybe as little as £7M.
Why do we look like getting so little for our number 11?
Surely Arnie should be seen as an addition to the squad rather than filling a likely hole? Gray has pace. THE PL commodity.
Having 3-4 front men with power and pace is the desired requirement for a PL team.

Gray only has a year left on his contract. I'd definitely prefer to keep him but if they want to make some money on him then they have to sell now, and they'll make four times what they paid for him if the fee is £7m. And if money is tight then £7m may well be the difference between being able to bring in another starter (which Grey won't be even if he stays) or not.

It's the £7m valuation. Surely more?
I've always liked this guy. Just needed consistency, but maybe it's more than that. Defensive duties, dressing room attitude?
The year that Leicester won the league, Gray was brutal against Baines, yet he still wasn't a regular.
We're back to the Moyes era. 17 players who can play in more than 1 position. Then pray for good health.

I have no idea if this £7m from Fulham is genuine or just tittle-tattle. But for argument's sake, let's just say that if that's what Fulham have offered for him, and they're the only bidder, and we accept that bid, then that's his valuation.

Of course, we would have the option of saying no to Fulham because our valuation is higher. That's a question, therefore, of whether the club chooses to hold its nerve on the expectation that a higher bid will come in from somewhere. If they just want to get something for him rather than him going on a free next summer, and if we can't afford to play poker, then we may have to accept that bid.

I agree, he's worth more than that. And I'd rather keep him anyway as we need a squad, not just an improved first XI. But we don't know what the transfer kitty is, that's the thing.

hairy cataract wrote:

Made 4 Gwladys wrote:

Rotterdam 1985 wrote:

Yankthattoffee wrote:

Rotterdam 1985 wrote:

Yankthattoffee wrote:

hairy cataract wrote:Great first interview on the OS.  For me that's the most important thing.  Sure, goals and assists are nice, but a fluent, intelligent interview is what we're really looking for in a player.

Welcome Arnie!

I think he's going to be fucking brilliant.

I've always liked a good interviewee. Seamus is top drawer.
Definitely a pretty good signing for us.
I can't quite understand how he's being seen as a replacement for Gray who is possibly off to Fulham for maybe as little as £7M.
Why do we look like getting so little for our number 11?
Surely Arnie should be seen as an addition to the squad rather than filling a likely hole? Gray has pace. THE PL commodity.
Having 3-4 front men with power and pace is the desired requirement for a PL team.

Gray only has a year left on his contract. I'd definitely prefer to keep him but if they want to make some money on him then they have to sell now, and they'll make four times what they paid for him if the fee is £7m. And if money is tight then £7m may well be the difference between being able to bring in another starter (which Grey won't be even if he stays) or not.

It's the £7m valuation. Surely more?
I've always liked this guy. Just needed consistency, but maybe it's more than that. Defensive duties, dressing room attitude?
The year that Leicester won the league, Gray was brutal against Baines, yet he still wasn't a regular.
We're back to the Moyes era. 17 players who can play in more than 1 position. Then pray for good health.

I have no idea if this £7m from Fulham is genuine or just tittle-tattle. But for argument's sake, let's just say that if that's what Fulham have offered for him, and they're the only bidder, and we accept that bid, then that's his valuation.

Of course, we would have the option of saying no to Fulham because our valuation is higher. That's a question, therefore, of whether the club chooses to hold its nerve on the expectation that a higher bid will come in from somewhere. If they just want to get something for him rather than him going on a free next summer, and if we can't afford to play poker, then we may have to accept that bid.

I agree, he's worth more than that. And I'd rather keep him anyway as we need a squad, not just an improved first XI. But we don't know what the transfer kitty is, that's the thing.

and what wages is Gray on?.. that could mean a player Dyche wants on loan for a season.... and all we need to target next season is not being in the relegation scrap.... then start to buy players for future & with resale value

I see Danjuma as an upgrade on Gray.  He has more pace, more end product and is more versatile across the front line.  We only have him for a year, but Gray's contract runs out in a year, so it's a like-for-like.

If we can get £10m for Gray, it would represent a very chunky profit on a player who will go on a free at the end of the season.

Dyche and Thelwell need to balance the books, and upgrade every position where possible.  I think they're doing that.  Danjuma and Young are both short term options, for different reasons, but both are very solid signings in our bid to avoid another relegation battle.

Yankthattoffee wrote:

hairy cataract wrote:

Made 4 Gwladys wrote:

Rotterdam 1985 wrote:

Yankthattoffee wrote:

Rotterdam 1985 wrote:

Yankthattoffee wrote:

hairy cataract wrote:Great first interview on the OS.  For me that's the most important thing.  Sure, goals and assists are nice, but a fluent, intelligent interview is what we're really looking for in a player.

Welcome Arnie!

I think he's going to be fucking brilliant.

I've always liked a good interviewee. Seamus is top drawer.
Definitely a pretty good signing for us.
I can't quite understand how he's being seen as a replacement for Gray who is possibly off to Fulham for maybe as little as £7M.
Why do we look like getting so little for our number 11?
Surely Arnie should be seen as an addition to the squad rather than filling a likely hole? Gray has pace. THE PL commodity.
Having 3-4 front men with power and pace is the desired requirement for a PL team.

Gray only has a year left on his contract. I'd definitely prefer to keep him but if they want to make some money on him then they have to sell now, and they'll make four times what they paid for him if the fee is £7m. And if money is tight then £7m may well be the difference between being able to bring in another starter (which Grey won't be even if he stays) or not.

It's the £7m valuation. Surely more?
I've always liked this guy. Just needed consistency, but maybe it's more than that. Defensive duties, dressing room attitude?
The year that Leicester won the league, Gray was brutal against Baines, yet he still wasn't a regular.
We're back to the Moyes era. 17 players who can play in more than 1 position. Then pray for good health.

I have no idea if this £7m from Fulham is genuine or just tittle-tattle. But for argument's sake, let's just say that if that's what Fulham have offered for him, and they're the only bidder, and we accept that bid, then that's his valuation.

Of course, we would have the option of saying no to Fulham because our valuation is higher. That's a question, therefore, of whether the club chooses to hold its nerve on the expectation that a higher bid will come in from somewhere. If they just want to get something for him rather than him going on a free next summer, and if we can't afford to play poker, then we may have to accept that bid.

I agree, he's worth more than that. And I'd rather keep him anyway as we need a squad, not just an improved first XI. But we don't know what the transfer kitty is, that's the thing.

and what wages is Gray on?.. that could mean a player Dyche wants on loan for a season.... and all we need to target next season is not being in the relegation scrap.... then start to buy players for future & with resale value

I see Danjuma as an upgrade on Gray.  He has more pace, more end product and is more versatile across the front line.  We only have him for a year, but Gray's contract runs out in a year, so it's a like-for-like.

If we can get £10m for Gray, it would represent a very chunky profit on a player who will go on a free at the end of the season.

Dyche and Thelwell need to balance the books, and upgrade every position where possible.  I think they're doing that.  Danjuma and Young are both short term options, for different reasons, but both are very solid signings in our bid to avoid another relegation battle.

It's clearly screaming FFP.
When Gray joined us we had the same kind of window.  Out of contract players and cheapos like Gray.
So who's next?

Made 4 Gwladys wrote:

Yankthattoffee wrote:

hairy cataract wrote:

Made 4 Gwladys wrote:

Rotterdam 1985 wrote:

Yankthattoffee wrote:

Rotterdam 1985 wrote:

Yankthattoffee wrote:

hairy cataract wrote:Great first interview on the OS.  For me that's the most important thing.  Sure, goals and assists are nice, but a fluent, intelligent interview is what we're really looking for in a player.

Welcome Arnie!

I think he's going to be fucking brilliant.

I've always liked a good interviewee. Seamus is top drawer.
Definitely a pretty good signing for us.
I can't quite understand how he's being seen as a replacement for Gray who is possibly off to Fulham for maybe as little as £7M.
Why do we look like getting so little for our number 11?
Surely Arnie should be seen as an addition to the squad rather than filling a likely hole? Gray has pace. THE PL commodity.
Having 3-4 front men with power and pace is the desired requirement for a PL team.

Gray only has a year left on his contract. I'd definitely prefer to keep him but if they want to make some money on him then they have to sell now, and they'll make four times what they paid for him if the fee is £7m. And if money is tight then £7m may well be the difference between being able to bring in another starter (which Grey won't be even if he stays) or not.

It's the £7m valuation. Surely more?
I've always liked this guy. Just needed consistency, but maybe it's more than that. Defensive duties, dressing room attitude?
The year that Leicester won the league, Gray was brutal against Baines, yet he still wasn't a regular.
We're back to the Moyes era. 17 players who can play in more than 1 position. Then pray for good health.

I have no idea if this £7m from Fulham is genuine or just tittle-tattle. But for argument's sake, let's just say that if that's what Fulham have offered for him, and they're the only bidder, and we accept that bid, then that's his valuation.

Of course, we would have the option of saying no to Fulham because our valuation is higher. That's a question, therefore, of whether the club chooses to hold its nerve on the expectation that a higher bid will come in from somewhere. If they just want to get something for him rather than him going on a free next summer, and if we can't afford to play poker, then we may have to accept that bid.

I agree, he's worth more than that. And I'd rather keep him anyway as we need a squad, not just an improved first XI. But we don't know what the transfer kitty is, that's the thing.

and what wages is Gray on?.. that could mean a player Dyche wants on loan for a season.... and all we need to target next season is not being in the relegation scrap.... then start to buy players for future & with resale value

I see Danjuma as an upgrade on Gray.  He has more pace, more end product and is more versatile across the front line.  We only have him for a year, but Gray's contract runs out in a year, so it's a like-for-like.

If we can get £10m for Gray, it would represent a very chunky profit on a player who will go on a free at the end of the season.

Dyche and Thelwell need to balance the books, and upgrade every position where possible.  I think they're doing that.  Danjuma and Young are both short term options, for different reasons, but both are very solid signings in our bid to avoid another relegation battle.

It's clearly screaming FFP.
When Gray joined us we had the same kind of window.  Out of contract players and cheapos like Gray.
So who's next?

out or in Yank ?

I think Holgate out since he was only selected for the stiffs on Saturday when 2 friendlies ran together.... and we need that striker, so Toure hopefully... although I know as much about him as I did about Sandro, Tosun or Keane ..... so who knows ... I really hope it's not Che Adams who I've read too much about lately

Yankthattoffee wrote:

Made 4 Gwladys wrote:

Yankthattoffee wrote:

hairy cataract wrote:

Made 4 Gwladys wrote:

Rotterdam 1985 wrote:

Yankthattoffee wrote:

Rotterdam 1985 wrote:

Yankthattoffee wrote:

hairy cataract wrote:Great first interview on the OS.  For me that's the most important thing.  Sure, goals and assists are nice, but a fluent, intelligent interview is what we're really looking for in a player.

Welcome Arnie!

I think he's going to be fucking brilliant.

I've always liked a good interviewee. Seamus is top drawer.
Definitely a pretty good signing for us.
I can't quite understand how he's being seen as a replacement for Gray who is possibly off to Fulham for maybe as little as £7M.
Why do we look like getting so little for our number 11?
Surely Arnie should be seen as an addition to the squad rather than filling a likely hole? Gray has pace. THE PL commodity.
Having 3-4 front men with power and pace is the desired requirement for a PL team.

Gray only has a year left on his contract. I'd definitely prefer to keep him but if they want to make some money on him then they have to sell now, and they'll make four times what they paid for him if the fee is £7m. And if money is tight then £7m may well be the difference between being able to bring in another starter (which Grey won't be even if he stays) or not.

It's the £7m valuation. Surely more?
I've always liked this guy. Just needed consistency, but maybe it's more than that. Defensive duties, dressing room attitude?
The year that Leicester won the league, Gray was brutal against Baines, yet he still wasn't a regular.
We're back to the Moyes era. 17 players who can play in more than 1 position. Then pray for good health.

I have no idea if this £7m from Fulham is genuine or just tittle-tattle. But for argument's sake, let's just say that if that's what Fulham have offered for him, and they're the only bidder, and we accept that bid, then that's his valuation.

Of course, we would have the option of saying no to Fulham because our valuation is higher. That's a question, therefore, of whether the club chooses to hold its nerve on the expectation that a higher bid will come in from somewhere. If they just want to get something for him rather than him going on a free next summer, and if we can't afford to play poker, then we may have to accept that bid.

I agree, he's worth more than that. And I'd rather keep him anyway as we need a squad, not just an improved first XI. But we don't know what the transfer kitty is, that's the thing.

and what wages is Gray on?.. that could mean a player Dyche wants on loan for a season.... and all we need to target next season is not being in the relegation scrap.... then start to buy players for future & with resale value

I see Danjuma as an upgrade on Gray.  He has more pace, more end product and is more versatile across the front line.  We only have him for a year, but Gray's contract runs out in a year, so it's a like-for-like.

If we can get £10m for Gray, it would represent a very chunky profit on a player who will go on a free at the end of the season.

Dyche and Thelwell need to balance the books, and upgrade every position where possible.  I think they're doing that.  Danjuma and Young are both short term options, for different reasons, but both are very solid signings in our bid to avoid another relegation battle.

It's clearly screaming FFP.
When Gray joined us we had the same kind of window.  Out of contract players and cheapos like Gray.
So who's next?

out or in Yank ?

I think Holgate out since he was only selected for the stiffs on Saturday when 2 friendlies ran together.... and we need that striker, so Toure hopefully... although I know as much about him as I did about Sandro, Tosun or Keane ..... so who knows ... I really hope it's not Che Adams who I've read too much about lately

It's probably going to be someone we know little of, and last minute too.
You feel Dyche will be looking for a beefy target man?
Holgate had such promise when he pushed Fermino into their main stand, but sadly had a few calamities and his game went south.
That would leave us dangerously short of one top drawer CB.

Made 4 Gwladys wrote:According to reports in Spain, Villarreal could look to recall Arnaut Danjuma in the January transfer window after the forward's lack of minutes at Goodison Park.