Re: Everton v Sheff Utd

Rotterdam 1985 Sun 16 May 2021, 8:47 pm

That Coleman slip is the meme our season deserves.

Made 4 Gwladys Sun 16 May 2021, 8:48 pm

3 added mins... could be 33 & we'd still be shit

Made 4 Gwladys Sun 16 May 2021, 8:50 pm

Carlo should drop the fucking lot & play kids in the last few games

Rotterdam 1985 Sun 16 May 2021, 8:50 pm

We could actually finish 10th, quite easily.

Armchair Sun 16 May 2021, 8:51 pm

Oh well, at least we won't be playing in the Conference league thingy.

Made 4 Gwladys Sun 16 May 2021, 8:52 pm

FT 0-1

I fucking hate football

pathetic

goodnight lads

Knight of Thorgothshire Sun 16 May 2021, 9:26 pm

Rotterdam 1985 wrote:We could actually finish 10th, quite easily.

https://evertoniansof606.editboard.com/t50764-the-rest-of-the-season

Knight of Thorgothshire Sun 16 May 2021, 9:32 pm

Where to begin...?

I'm a bit too pissed off, not drunk, only had a single Guinness during the match, to write too much here, but man, that was shite.

The Holgate backpass was the highlight of the game for me. Or rather, it highlighted that he didn't learn a thing with the failed backpass against Villa when they scored. Granted, if SU would have scored, he would have had a second assist of the season.

Shite. Crap. Skit. Bajs. Mierda. Scheisse. Everton v Sheff Utd - Page 3 695251

Did we at least win the possession...?

Rotterdam 1985 Sun 16 May 2021, 9:56 pm

So, my footy viewing on TV today...

Saw the Shite's keeper score a last minute winner.

Saw the last 20 minutes of Everton losing to the team bottom of the league.

Settled down in the evening to see if Lille could win the French league tonight. 0-0.

Simultaneously watched Milan on a Bet365 stream to see if they could hammer another nail into Juve's CL coffin. 0-0.

At least the Palace Villa game was decent. And at least I missed the first 70 minutes of our horror show.

Can't help thinking I've wasted a day though.

Knight of Thorgothshire Sun 16 May 2021, 10:35 pm

Rotterdam 1985 wrote:So, my footy viewing on TV today...

Saw the Shite's keeper score a last minute winner.

Saw the last 20 minutes of Everton losing to the team bottom of the league.

Settled down in the evening to see if Lille could win the French league tonight. 0-0.

Simultaneously watched Milan on a Bet365 stream to see if they could hammer another nail into Juve's CL coffin. 0-0.

At least the Palace Villa game was decent. And at least I missed the first 70 minutes of our horror show.

Can't help thinking I've wasted a day though.

Honestly Rotts, I think I might have to start watching the Bundesliga more. Pick a team (I'm taking suggestions; I likely would have picked Shalke 04 but they were relegated this year) just to get away from the Premier League.

Cue next week I'm all in on Everton again.

I'm like Holgate - don't learn anything from previous mistakes.

Knight of Thorgothshire Sun 16 May 2021, 11:31 pm

Did some yardwork and realized that I should go with Eintracht Frankfurt since my very good friend from college was born and raised in Frankfurt and used to be a season ticket holder before he moved to the very southern part of Germany. Still talk to him 3-4 times a week, so I should have thought of that right away.

Settled.

Rotterdam 1985 Mon 17 May 2021, 1:32 am

Knight of Thorgothshire wrote:Did some yardwork and realized that I should go with Eintracht Frankfurt since my very good friend from college was born and raised in Frankfurt and used to be a season ticket holder before he moved to the very southern part of Germany. Still talk to him 3-4 times a week, so I should have thought of that right away.

Settled.

Go for it mate, good luck for next season.

You may already know this because you're Swedish so probably speak about 19 languages but I recently discovered via a German colleague that "Eintracht" means "unity" in German. So they're basically called Frankfurt United.

I "follow" (to wildly varying degrees) a team in a lot of countries. My team in Germany is the aforementioned, ill-fated Schalke. Reason? My arl fella once told me that we used to play them in pre-season friendlies a lot. I've not really found any evidence to back that up but no matter, they play in blue and they seem like a proper club. Only problem is, they've been Sheffield United-level shit (ahem!) this season.

I probably won't change my tenuous loyalty just because of one measly relegation, but if I did, I'd probably switch to St Pauli. Hamburg's second club, permanently stuck in the second division and massively left-wing. You don't get too many clubs who take a political stance - I can only think of St Pauli and Chelsea, who of course are massive Tory bellends. Oh, St Pauli also have a brown kit. I follow the Browns...

I've been to Cologne a lot, that's where our German office is, but they play in red and they might get relegated this season as well. Also the first time I went to the Munich beerfest, Cologne were playing Bayern away that weekend, so there were Cologne fans everywhere. They were all mullets, porn star moustaches and badges sewn into denim jackets. Like Kopites, but really bad Kopites. So they can fuck off.

Who else? Union Berlin. I like my Cold War history and in Commie East Germany days, Dynamo Berlin (the Stasi club) won the league ten years running, partly because the Stasi told everyone to let them win it 10 years running. In those days Union Berlin were the subversive East Berlin team to support, for Berliners who didn't follow the Party line. That strikes me as being rather commendable, living in an oppressive authoritarian society, to risk getting hassle from the feds just for going to the "wrong" footy stadium. They got into the top flight this season and have performed very well, currently 7th, in line for a Europa Conference spot. There's only one problem: they play in red. So they can fuck off as well. Stasi? Arrest these deviants. One of them just called Lenin a cunt.

The only other one I'd consider is Munich 1860. The original big Munich club before the emergence of those upstarts Bayern, who weren't even in the Bundesliga when it was founded (1860 were.) In my Beerfest days in the '90s, 1860 were sort of West Brom, yo-yoing between the top and second divisions. Now they're in division 3 and their relationship to Bayern is similar to the Manchester clubs in 1999, when United did the treble while City were trying to get out of League 1. Maybe a rich Arab will buy 1860 one day and restore it to its former glories. They even play in sky blue. Bayern play in red. Just saying...

I met an 1860 fan at the Beerfest; he was the saddest football fan I've ever spoken to (there were, as you can imagine, a lot of people walking around with Bayern gear on.) I did cheer him up though when I tried to pronounce the name of his team in German - when I tried to say the last bit, "60" (sechzig) he thought I was saying "sexy." This made him laugh his cock off for about 35 minutes. No kidding. He kept on coming up for air to say "but we are NOT sexy! Ha ha ha" and I made a mental note to try a different Beerfest the following year.

Whatever you do, don't follow Kaiserslautern. They're also in division 3 these days but are actually a big club, German champions twice in the 90s. A mate of mine went over there to watch Spurs many years back. He brought a program back for me (I used to collect them) and to my horror I found that not only do they sing YNWA at their games, they actually printed the words in the program. Now I do follow European football quite closely and I've rather enjoyed their recent demise. I know, pathetic really. But they printed the words to YNWA. So they can absolutely fuck off.

Exhibit A, your honour: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xm7H2PDPP_k

Armchair Mon 17 May 2021, 9:56 am

Dortmund would seem like a decent bet in that they enjoy a good amount of success but there's less risk of being accused of gloryhunting than if you choose Bayern.

Or pick Freiburg, simply because it's a very beautiful city.

Made 4 Gwladys Mon 17 May 2021, 10:05 am

"We played really badly," said Ancelotti.

https://www.evertonfc.com/news/2146106/ancelotti-delivers-strong-verdict-on-evertons-bad-blades-display

Rotterdam 1985 Mon 17 May 2021, 12:28 pm

Made 4 Gwladys wrote:"We played really badly," said Ancelotti.

https://www.evertonfc.com/news/2146106/ancelotti-delivers-strong-verdict-on-evertons-bad-blades-display

Thanks Carlo. Because I only saw the last 20 minutes so I genuinely needed you to confirm to me whether we played well or not while losing at home to the bottom team.

Rotterdam 1985 Mon 17 May 2021, 12:32 pm

Armchair wrote:Dortmund would seem like a decent bet in that they enjoy a good amount of success but there's less risk of being accused of gloryhunting than if you choose Bayern.

Or pick Freiburg, simply because it's a very beautiful city.

That's as good a reason as any, to follow a team because you've visited the place and liked it.

Weirdly though, of all the European teams that I "follow" I can't think of any that I follow for this reason. Most of them go back to my childhood when I was obsessed with football, including European footy, and picked teams out for all manner of different reasons. I didn't go abroad till I was 18 so couldn't use this as a reason to pick a team back then.

I have to confess that I look out for a couple of teams for no reason other than they once brought in a decent footy acca for me. cheers

Armchair Mon 17 May 2021, 1:05 pm

Rotterdam 1985 wrote:
Armchair wrote:Dortmund would seem like a decent bet in that they enjoy a good amount of success but there's less risk of being accused of gloryhunting than if you choose Bayern.

Or pick Freiburg, simply because it's a very beautiful city.

That's as good a reason as any, to follow a team because you've visited the place and liked it.

Weirdly though, of all the European teams that I "follow" I can't think of any that I follow for this reason. Most of them go back to my childhood when I was obsessed with football, including European footy, and picked teams out for all manner of different reasons. I didn't go abroad till I was 18 so couldn't use this as a reason to pick a team back then.

I have to confess that I look out for a couple of teams for no reason other than they once brought in a decent footy acca for me.

Now that is a good reason cheers

hairy cataract Mon 17 May 2021, 2:24 pm

I'm not going to follow any teams other than Everton, for the simple reason that they bring me more than enough pain and misery thanks. I mean, the odds are that if you support a team it's going to be more pain than pleasure. Even if you're a glory hunting RS or Chelsi fan, you're going to have to put up with Slippy Steve moments, or losing to Leicester in a cup final and NOBODY having any sympathy for you, or just being a fucking RS - which in itself is punishment enough for even the worst crime you might commit.

So yeah, I'll stick with just the one fucking pathetic shit team if that's okay. My cup of misery already runneth over plentifully thank you very much.

I fucking HATE football.

And I'm off to Goodison on Wednesday. Which means spending a hundred quid or so on the train, having to get to the ground an hour and a half before the kick-off (err, I really don't think so), and not being able to purchase even a cup of bovril in the ground. Then I will be forced (presumably at knife point) to watch the most under-performing Everton team I can remember, losing one-nil to a truly fucking terrible Wolves team. Finally we no doubt will be encouraged to give our so-called footballers a lap of honour before being permitted to leave the ground at about midnight.

Be assured that I will be booing as loud as my Everton face-mask allows at that shower of shit unless they give us 90 minutes of relentless, intense, footballing brilliance to make up for all the shite we've had to put up with til now.

Anyway, it's only a game eh?

Armchair Mon 17 May 2021, 5:11 pm

hairy cataract wrote:I'm not going to follow any teams other than Everton, for the simple reason that they bring me more than enough pain and misery thanks. I mean, the odds are that if you support a team it's going to be more pain than pleasure. Even if you're a glory hunting RS or Chelsi fan, you're going to have to put up with Slippy Steve moments, or losing to Leicester in a cup final and NOBODY having any sympathy for you, or just being a fucking RS - which in itself is punishment enough for even the worst crime you might commit.

So yeah, I'll stick with just the one fucking pathetic shit team if that's okay. My cup of misery already runneth over plentifully thank you very much.

I fucking HATE football.

And I'm off to Goodison on Wednesday. Which means spending a hundred quid or so on the train, having to get to the ground an hour and a half before the kick-off (err, I really don't think so), and not being able to purchase even a cup of bovril in the ground. Then I will be forced (presumably at knife point) to watch the most under-performing Everton team I can remember, losing one-nil to a truly fucking terrible Wolves team. Finally we no doubt will be encouraged to give our so-called footballers a lap of honour before being permitted to leave the ground at about midnight.

Be assured that I will be booing as loud as my Everton face-mask allows at that shower of shit unless they give us 90 minutes of relentless, intense, footballing brilliance to make up for all the shite we've had to put up with til now.

Anyway, it's only a game eh?

It won't be all bad - Wolves play some decent stuff at times.

Da Judge Mon 17 May 2021, 10:49 pm

Knight of Thorgothshire wrote:
Rotterdam 1985 wrote:So, my footy viewing on TV today...

Saw the Shite's keeper score a last minute winner.

Saw the last 20 minutes of Everton losing to the team bottom of the league.

Settled down in the evening to see if Lille could win the French league tonight. 0-0.

Simultaneously watched Milan on a Bet365 stream to see if they could hammer another nail into Juve's CL coffin. 0-0.

At least the Palace Villa game was decent. And at least I missed the first 70 minutes of our horror show.

Can't help thinking I've wasted a day though.
Honestly Rotts, I think I might have to start watching the Bundesliga more. Pick a team (I'm taking suggestions; I likely would have picked Shalke 04 but they were relegated this year) just to get away from the Premier League.

Cue next week I'm all in on Everton again.

I'm like Holgate - don't learn anything from previous mistakes.

Schalke was always my choice.... lived in Hamburg for a while, left because people thought I was the 5th Beatle... actually did use to watch an amazing club St. Pauli (a cult club - brilliant atmosphere) but they are second tier... as are Hamburg (relegated for the first time ever last season)...

I will always have a soft spot for Borussia Moenchengladbach (still the greatest Question of Sport answer ever given by Big Everton fan - Paul O'Connell) given that we beat them (on Penalties) in the first European match I ever saw as a special early Christmas present. Everything about them was different - the kit if memory serves was a white shirt with two broad different coloured strips in front.

So in the absence of Schalke I will opt for them

Rotterdam 1985 Mon 17 May 2021, 11:29 pm

hairy cataract wrote:I'm not going to follow any teams other than Everton, for the simple reason that they bring me more than enough pain and misery thanks. I mean, the odds are that if you support a team it's going to be more pain than pleasure. Even if you're a glory hunting RS or Chelsi fan, you're going to have to put up with Slippy Steve moments, or losing to Leicester in a cup final and NOBODY having any sympathy for you, or just being a fucking RS - which in itself is punishment enough for even the worst crime you might commit.

So yeah, I'll stick with just the one fucking pathetic shit team if that's okay. My cup of misery already runneth over plentifully thank you very much.

I fucking HATE football.

And I'm off to Goodison on Wednesday. Which means spending a hundred quid or so on the train, having to get to the ground an hour and a half before the kick-off (err, I really don't think so), and not being able to purchase even a cup of bovril in the ground. Then I will be forced (presumably at knife point) to watch the most under-performing Everton team I can remember, losing one-nil to a truly fucking terrible Wolves team. Finally we no doubt will be encouraged to give our so-called footballers a lap of honour before being permitted to leave the ground at about midnight.

Be assured that I will be booing as loud as my Everton face-mask allows at that shower of shit unless they give us 90 minutes of relentless, intense, footballing brilliance to make up for all the shite we've had to put up with til now.

Anyway, it's only a game eh?

No mate, it's not only a game, it's a religion.

I used to take all that "football is a religion" stuff with a pinch of salt but that's actually how it's starting to feel. Or rather, as a non-believer, it's how I imagine religion feels. Misery, self-flagellation, irrational belief. Psychologically committed to an institution that you frequently despise and which often lets you down yet you can't break free from the chains.

Actually, that's how it's felt since about 1991.

What if it's all bullshit, Hairy? What if Dixie Dean didn't actually exist? I mean I've seen depictions of his form, heard stories passed down by word of mouth from generation to generation, my old man even claimed to have seen him play, lol. But 60 goals in a league season? Get the fuck out of here. Sorry, I'm starting to have doubts.

If I were going on Wednesday I'd be booing before kickoff. I'd be shouting something about not being fit to wear the shirt on the walk from Kirkdale station. I'd be summing up a season's worth of misery and frustration and I'd be letting it all out, while waiting for my first pre-kickoff pint in the Winslow. Like a fucking banshee. Not Budgie or John McGeoch (now he could play) but like, a proper banshee, wailing about the death of our season.

Enjoy yourself mate. Wish I could be there but I need to perform some root canal work on myself and Wednesday night is the only slot I have available.

Rotterdam 1985 Tue 18 May 2021, 12:20 am

Da Judge wrote:
Knight of Thorgothshire wrote:
Rotterdam 1985 wrote:So, my footy viewing on TV today...

Saw the Shite's keeper score a last minute winner.

Saw the last 20 minutes of Everton losing to the team bottom of the league.

Settled down in the evening to see if Lille could win the French league tonight. 0-0.

Simultaneously watched Milan on a Bet365 stream to see if they could hammer another nail into Juve's CL coffin. 0-0.

At least the Palace Villa game was decent. And at least I missed the first 70 minutes of our horror show.

Can't help thinking I've wasted a day though.
Honestly Rotts, I think I might have to start watching the Bundesliga more. Pick a team (I'm taking suggestions; I likely would have picked Shalke 04 but they were relegated this year) just to get away from the Premier League.

Cue next week I'm all in on Everton again.

I'm like Holgate - don't learn anything from previous mistakes.

Schalke was always my choice.... lived in Hamburg for a while, left because people thought I was the 5th Beatle... actually did use to watch an amazing club St. Pauli (a cult club - brilliant atmosphere) but they are second tier... as are Hamburg (relegated for the first time ever last season)...

I will always have a soft spot for Borussia Moenchengladbach (still the greatest Question of Sport answer ever given by Big Everton fan - Paul O'Connell) given that we beat them (on Penalties) in the first European match I ever saw as a special early Christmas present. Everything about them was different - the kit if memory serves was a white shirt with two broad different coloured strips in front.

So in the absence of Schalke I will opt for them

I had no idea O'Connell was a blue. I spent his entire career hating him for being brilliant-but-Irish and making life a misery whenever he played England. I would have looked at him a bit differently if I'd known he was a blue.

Was he on Matt Dawson's team? Dawson is also a blue. He was my brother-in-law's best mate when they were kids.

That Moenchengladbach game was the first ever penalty shootout in European football. Gladbach were really good in the '70's when I was an impressionable kid, so naturally I'd never have adopted them as my team, as even back then I tended to veer away from glory-hunting. I must like the misery (see my last post above.)

The only possible exception is my French team, St Etienne. They were also shit-hot in the '70's and I knew it, but I really liked their kit, and the name, so I picked up on them. Naturally they turned to dog shite the moment I adopted them (haven't won the league since '81.)

Da Judge Tue 18 May 2021, 1:08 pm

Rotterdam 1985 wrote:
Da Judge wrote:
Knight of Thorgothshire wrote:
Rotterdam 1985 wrote:So, my footy viewing on TV today...

Saw the Shite's keeper score a last minute winner.

Saw the last 20 minutes of Everton losing to the team bottom of the league.

Settled down in the evening to see if Lille could win the French league tonight. 0-0.

Simultaneously watched Milan on a Bet365 stream to see if they could hammer another nail into Juve's CL coffin. 0-0.

At least the Palace Villa game was decent. And at least I missed the first 70 minutes of our horror show.

Can't help thinking I've wasted a day though.
Honestly Rotts, I think I might have to start watching the Bundesliga more. Pick a team (I'm taking suggestions; I likely would have picked Shalke 04 but they were relegated this year) just to get away from the Premier League.

Cue next week I'm all in on Everton again.

I'm like Holgate - don't learn anything from previous mistakes.

Schalke was always my choice.... lived in Hamburg for a while, left because people thought I was the 5th Beatle... actually did use to watch an amazing club St. Pauli (a cult club - brilliant atmosphere) but they are second tier... as are Hamburg (relegated for the first time ever last season)...

I will always have a soft spot for Borussia Moenchengladbach (still the greatest Question of Sport answer ever given by Big Everton fan - Paul O'Connell) given that we beat them (on Penalties) in the first European match I ever saw as a special early Christmas present. Everything about them was different - the kit if memory serves was a white shirt with two broad different coloured strips in front.

So in the absence of Schalke I will opt for them

I had no idea O'Connell was a blue. I spent his entire career hating him for being brilliant-but-Irish and making life a misery whenever he played England. I would have looked at him a bit differently if I'd known he was a blue.

Was he on Matt Dawson's team? Dawson is also a blue. He was my brother-in-law's best mate when they were kids.

That Moenchengladbach game was the first ever penalty shootout in European football. Gladbach were really good in the '70's when I was an impressionable kid, so naturally I'd never have adopted them as my team, as even back then I tended to veer away from glory-hunting. I must like the misery (see my last post above.)

The only possible exception is my French team, St Etienne. They were also shit-hot in the '70's and I knew it, but I really liked their kit, and the name, so I picked up on them. Naturally they turned to dog shite the moment I adopted them (haven't won the league since '81.)

Who was their "Flashing Blade" of a striker, was it Dominique Rocheteau? That name seems to spring to mind. I remember them running the Shoite very close in the European Cup.

For Paul O'Connell - yes mad blue... he was forced to wear a Shoite strip for his whole stag week... I once got very close to getting his agent to get Paul to be my guest in the Dixie Dean lounge ... but he had to cry off.

Rotterdam 1985 Wed 19 May 2021, 1:03 pm

Da Judge wrote:
Rotterdam 1985 wrote:
Da Judge wrote:
Knight of Thorgothshire wrote:
Rotterdam 1985 wrote:So, my footy viewing on TV today...

Saw the Shite's keeper score a last minute winner.

Saw the last 20 minutes of Everton losing to the team bottom of the league.

Settled down in the evening to see if Lille could win the French league tonight. 0-0.

Simultaneously watched Milan on a Bet365 stream to see if they could hammer another nail into Juve's CL coffin. 0-0.

At least the Palace Villa game was decent. And at least I missed the first 70 minutes of our horror show.

Can't help thinking I've wasted a day though.
Honestly Rotts, I think I might have to start watching the Bundesliga more. Pick a team (I'm taking suggestions; I likely would have picked Shalke 04 but they were relegated this year) just to get away from the Premier League.

Cue next week I'm all in on Everton again.

I'm like Holgate - don't learn anything from previous mistakes.

Schalke was always my choice.... lived in Hamburg for a while, left because people thought I was the 5th Beatle... actually did use to watch an amazing club St. Pauli (a cult club - brilliant atmosphere) but they are second tier... as are Hamburg (relegated for the first time ever last season)...

I will always have a soft spot for Borussia Moenchengladbach (still the greatest Question of Sport answer ever given by Big Everton fan - Paul O'Connell) given that we beat them (on Penalties) in the first European match I ever saw as a special early Christmas present. Everything about them was different - the kit if memory serves was a white shirt with two broad different coloured strips in front.

So in the absence of Schalke I will opt for them

I had no idea O'Connell was a blue. I spent his entire career hating him for being brilliant-but-Irish and making life a misery whenever he played England. I would have looked at him a bit differently if I'd known he was a blue.

Was he on Matt Dawson's team? Dawson is also a blue. He was my brother-in-law's best mate when they were kids.

That Moenchengladbach game was the first ever penalty shootout in European football. Gladbach were really good in the '70's when I was an impressionable kid, so naturally I'd never have adopted them as my team, as even back then I tended to veer away from glory-hunting. I must like the misery (see my last post above.)

The only possible exception is my French team, St Etienne. They were also shit-hot in the '70's and I knew it, but I really liked their kit, and the name, so I picked up on them. Naturally they turned to dog shite the moment I adopted them (haven't won the league since '81.)

Who was their "Flashing Blade" of a striker, was it Dominique Rocheteau? That name seems to spring to mind. I remember them running the Shoite very close in the European Cup.

For Paul O'Connell - yes mad blue... he was forced to wear a Shoite strip for his whole stag week... I once got very close to getting his agent to get Paul to be my guest in the Dixie Dean lounge ... but he had to cry off.

Yeah Rocheteau, good player, possibly the most French-looking footballer of all time, at least until Hugo Lloris took that title. All hair and flair, he had a barnet that Ru Paul would pay good money for.

Their defeat to Liverpool in the 1977 European Cup quarter final is the source of all that "famous Anfield European nights" load of bollocks that commentators like to bang on about, as though they're the only club that has ever experienced such emotions. It may well also be one of the reasons why I adopted St Etienne as my French team in the first place. They were about 10 minutes away from knocking the Shite out on away goals, but Fairclough got the winner late on.

Armchair Wed 19 May 2021, 7:55 pm

Speaking of Schalke: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/57087325

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