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Post  hairy cataract Sat 16 Jan 2016, 5:46 pm

and, by the way:

Chelsea boss Guus Hiddink has suggested he may have spoken to the referee, Mike Jones, and told him to play additional stoppage time after Everton went 3-2 up in the 90th minute.

Hiddink told Match of the Day: "There was seven minutes extra time... I said, 'Ref, okay, they are celebrating at least one minute in the corner.'"

He added: "I will not deny it - it was offside because Oscar touched the ball, even though John was technically perfect [with his finish]."

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Post  Yankthattoffee Sat 16 Jan 2016, 5:53 pm

hairberto cataract wrote:
Yankthattoffee wrote:
hairberto cataract wrote:Chris Sutton can fuck off the cunt

"Terry's equaliser was clearly offside, but he is a never-say-die player. It's a centre forward's finish after a great gamble.

"Martinez, who I've just watched, is whinging."


Sutton is not much different to every other feckin' commentator. They love seeing is fail.
Another lesson learned.

At least Robby didn't do a  Klopp and get rolling bow going.

and btw the extra minute was for the Mori celebration a la Bournemouth.  Another lesson learned.

Yeah, I'm less fucked off by the extra minute than I am by the fact it was miles offside, and the fact that YET AGAIN we've thrown it away after scoring so late in the game ourselves.
It's beyond luck or ref's decisions, it is just effin' ....oh feck it
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Post  Goodison_Gringo Sat 16 Jan 2016, 5:55 pm

hairberto cataract wrote:and, by the way:

Chelsea boss Guus Hiddink has suggested he may have spoken to the referee, Mike Jones, and told him to play additional stoppage time after Everton went 3-2 up in the 90th minute.

Hiddink told Match of the Day: "There was seven minutes extra time... I said, 'Ref, okay, they are celebrating at least one minute in the corner.'"

He added: "I will not deny it - it was offside because Oscar touched the ball, even though John was technically perfect [with his finish]."


Don't really have an issue with that but it's the old consistency argument again.
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Post  Made 4 Gwladys Sat 16 Jan 2016, 6:09 pm

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Post  Barry Horne's Equaliser Sat 16 Jan 2016, 6:10 pm

Goodison_Gringo wrote:
hairberto cataract wrote:and, by the way:

Chelsea boss Guus Hiddink has suggested he may have spoken to the referee, Mike Jones, and told him to play additional stoppage time after Everton went 3-2 up in the 90th minute.

Hiddink told Match of the Day: "There was seven minutes extra time... I said, 'Ref, okay, they are celebrating at least one minute in the corner.'"

He added: "I will not deny it - it was offside because Oscar touched the ball, even though John was technically perfect [with his finish]."


Don't really have an issue with that but it's the old consistency argument again.

Absolutely! The next time it's half time in a game and the score is 2-2, you watch there be no more than one minute time added on! What a sack of shit. Referee bowing down to the Sky teams again.

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Post  Statman Sat 16 Jan 2016, 6:26 pm

Mori Foo Gwladys wrote:Foo on for \lennon ...Penis Pieman for Kev


still we don't see Foo & Kev on at the same time

Fixed.
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Post  Statman Sat 16 Jan 2016, 6:36 pm

hairberto cataract wrote:
Yankthattoffee wrote:
hairberto cataract wrote:Chris Sutton can fuck off the cunt

"Terry's equaliser was clearly offside, but he is a never-say-die player. It's a centre forward's finish after a great gamble.

"Martinez, who I've just watched, is whinging."


Sutton is not much different to every other feckin' commentator. They love seeing is fail.
Another lesson learned.

At least Robby didn't do a  Klopp and get rolling bow going.

and btw the extra minute was for the Mori celebration a la Bournemouth.  Another lesson learned.

Yeah, I'm less fucked off by the extra minute than I am by the fact it was miles offside, and the fact that YET AGAIN we've thrown it away after scoring so late in the game ourselves.

The media will just say that it's poetic justice after the Stones-Sterling incident.
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Post  Da Judge Sat 16 Jan 2016, 6:40 pm

Statman wrote:
hairberto cataract wrote:
Yankthattoffee wrote:
hairberto cataract wrote:Chris Sutton can fuck off the cunt

"Terry's equaliser was clearly offside, but he is a never-say-die player. It's a centre forward's finish after a great gamble.

"Martinez, who I've just watched, is whinging."


Sutton is not much different to every other feckin' commentator. They love seeing is fail.
Another lesson learned.

At least Robby didn't do a  Klopp and get rolling bow going.

and btw the extra minute was for the Mori celebration a la Bournemouth.  Another lesson learned.

Yeah, I'm less fucked off by the extra minute than I am by the fact it was miles offside, and the fact that YET AGAIN we've thrown it away after scoring so late in the game ourselves.

The media will just say that it's poetic justice after the Stones-Sterling incident.

If that is the case then it's even tougher... We get two draws.... 2 points... Whereas we could have lost one won one and got three... I fucking hate Jimmy Hill...

I am going to have words.... It cannot be an achievement if we can say we are hard to beat we score nearly 2 goals a game and still draw every fucking match. Jones has to be sacrificed - HE IS THE COACH. WE have Unsworth who could be better..he at least played at the level required....

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Post  Yankthattoffee Sat 16 Jan 2016, 6:44 pm

I just had a thought. Did the linesman think that an efc player headed it on to Terry?
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Post  Barry Horne's Equaliser Sat 16 Jan 2016, 6:51 pm

Yankthattoffee wrote:I just had a thought. Did the linesman think that an efc player headed it on to Terry?

Or potentially didn't see the flick at all.

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Post  The President Sat 16 Jan 2016, 6:53 pm

affraid •Since 28 November, Everton have dropped a league-high 11 points from leading positions in nine Premier League games.
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Post  Made 4 Gwladys Sat 16 Jan 2016, 6:54 pm

Barry Horne's Equaliser wrote:
Yankthattoffee wrote:I just had a thought. Did the linesman think that an efc player headed it on to Terry?

Or potentially didn't see the flick at all.
or were the FA on the end of the texts that Abromovich was sending

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Post  Armchair Sat 16 Jan 2016, 7:05 pm

We play Swansea next. They're 18th but have conceded less goals than we have No
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Post  Da Judge Sat 16 Jan 2016, 8:03 pm

The President wrote: affraid •Since 28 November, Everton have dropped a league-high 11 points from leading positions in nine Premier League games.

We would be a CLEAR THIRD if this had not been the case.

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Post  SouthernSmugToffee Sat 16 Jan 2016, 9:27 pm

Robbed! No
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Post  Yankthattoffee Sun 17 Jan 2016, 1:25 am

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Post  Armchair Sun 17 Jan 2016, 8:40 am

Not a happy man: http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/35335922
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Post  SEFTON Sun 17 Jan 2016, 9:59 am

Armchair wrote:Not a happy man: http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/35335922

Are style of play has to be questioned ? Great on attack-Shite on defence, this is not just a one game based problem, its been the story of our season.
we can't kill off teams,Its the Martinez/Wigan way. affraid
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Post  SouthernSmugToffee Sun 17 Jan 2016, 11:30 am

sefton wrote:
Armchair wrote:Not a happy man: http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/35335922

Are style of play has to be questioned ? Great on attack-Shite on defence, this is not just a one game based problem, its been the story of our season.
we can't kill off teams,Its the Martinez/Wigan way. affraid

The problem is we seem to change our style as soon as we go a goal or two up. We drop back and give the opposition space, but we shouldn't, we should carry on in the same style and press home our advantage.
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Post  The President Sun 17 Jan 2016, 11:54 am

SouthernSmugToffee wrote:
sefton wrote:
Armchair wrote:Not a happy man: http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/35335922

Are style of play has to be questioned ? Great on attack-Shite on defence, this is not just a one game based problem, its been the story of our season.
we can't kill off teams,Its the Martinez/Wigan way. affraid

The problem is we seem to change our style as soon as we go a goal or two up.  We drop back and give the opposition space, but we shouldn't, we should carry on in the same style and press home our advantage.

Agreed
If the way we are playing gets us to 2-0 up - Carry on playing that way
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Post  Yankthattoffee Sun 17 Jan 2016, 12:55 pm

The President wrote:
SouthernSmugToffee wrote:
sefton wrote:
Armchair wrote:Not a happy man: http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/35335922

Are style of play has to be questioned ? Great on attack-Shite on defence, this is not just a one game based problem, its been the story of our season.
we can't kill off teams,Its the Martinez/Wigan way. affraid

The problem is we seem to change our style as soon as we go a goal or two up.  We drop back and give the opposition space, but we shouldn't, we should carry on in the same style and press home our advantage.

Agreed
If the way we are playing gets us to 2-0 up - Carry on playing that way
I think that's our problem. We go 2 goals up and keep playing open end to end football, at a time when the opposition start to push up, press and change their line up to a more attacking shape. We just keep playing as we always do, and concede time after time.
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Post  Made 4 Gwladys Sun 17 Jan 2016, 1:29 pm

Yankthattoffee wrote:
The President wrote:
SouthernSmugToffee wrote:
sefton wrote:
Armchair wrote:Not a happy man: http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/35335922

Are style of play has to be questioned ? Great on attack-Shite on defence, this is not just a one game based problem, its been the story of our season.
we can't kill off teams,Its the Martinez/Wigan way. affraid

The problem is we seem to change our style as soon as we go a goal or two up.  We drop back and give the opposition space, but we shouldn't, we should carry on in the same style and press home our advantage.

Agreed
If the way we are playing gets us to 2-0 up - Carry on playing that way
I think that's our problem. We go 2 goals up and keep playing open end to end football, at a time when the opposition start to push up, press and change their line up to a more attacking shape. We just keep playing as we always do, and concede time after time.
as David Moyes said on MOTD... (straight after discussing when you get to 2 up against a team like Chelsea).. there are times when you need to just shut up shop & ensure you get the result.... Bobby is too naïve to do this effectively, he just has to attack, attack, attack... he knows no other way & frankly it reminds me of Keegan when he was Barcodes manager in the 90's

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Post  The President Sun 17 Jan 2016, 1:31 pm

Mori Foo Gwladys wrote:
Yankthattoffee wrote:
The President wrote:
SouthernSmugToffee wrote:
sefton wrote:
Armchair wrote:Not a happy man: http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/35335922

Are style of play has to be questioned ? Great on attack-Shite on defence, this is not just a one game based problem, its been the story of our season.
we can't kill off teams,Its the Martinez/Wigan way. affraid

The problem is we seem to change our style as soon as we go a goal or two up.  We drop back and give the opposition space, but we shouldn't, we should carry on in the same style and press home our advantage.

Agreed
If the way we are playing gets us to 2-0 up - Carry on playing that way
I think that's our problem. We go 2 goals up and keep playing open end to end football, at a time when the opposition start to push up, press and change their line up to a more attacking shape. We just keep playing as we always do, and concede time after time.
as David Moyes said on MOTD... (straight after discussing when you get to 2 up against a team like Chelsea).. there are times when you need to just shut up shop & ensure you get the result.... Bobby is too naïve to do this effectively, he just has to attack, attack, attack... he knows no other way & frankly it reminds me of Keegan when he was Barcodes manager in the 90's

Whilst not totally disagreeing - I felt yesterday we sat deeper after our second goal, inviting them on to us
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Post  Armchair Sun 17 Jan 2016, 1:48 pm

The main thing is that at 2-0 up we should be keeping hold of the ball and playing that boring ticky tacky stuff for 10-15 minutes to tire out and demoralise the opposing team.
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Post  Made 4 Gwladys Sun 17 Jan 2016, 1:51 pm

Armchair wrote:The main thing is that at 2-0 up we should be keeping hold of the ball and playing that boring ticky tacky stuff for 10-15 minutes to tire out and demoralise the opposing team.
it's so tough.. Moyes would have won that comfortably at 2 up... but Moyes would probably not have got to 2 up... it's a dilemma... if Bobby can learn to close out a win from a winning position we will be lethal

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