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Post  Yankthattoffee on Wed 26 Aug 2015, 10:48 am

Cahill the Great wrote:
Bluejagz wrote:I think the club should just say to Stones that they respect and understand he's a greedy money grabbing cnuthis wishes to play at CL club however, at this stage in the window, there just isn't time to find a suitable replacement but will honor his request next summer after the Euro finals. No hissy fit. He's only 21. He'll get a full season playing every week, learning his art in a less pressurised enviroment with a host of good pros around him.


I think this too.    The club has to always put its interests before the player.  Stones can wait a year and he should be mature enough to get on with it.

Players who put in transfer requests at this stage of the window usually have them rejected and this is really no different.    He has 4 years left on his contract so his value isnt going to go down.   No need to sell!
Rooney, Arteta, Fellaini, all put in their requests with hours to go, so this is a better scenario than that.
Sadly, like Barkley, his game could be found out over the rest oft this season and his value sinks like the Chinese stock market.
Surely BK, RM and Elstone have had a plan B for him banging in this request?
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Post  Helenqu on Wed 26 Aug 2015, 10:55 am

I think the silence from the club on this now says that we are selling. Just read an article that says we are trying to buy out the sell on clause from Barnsley! http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/sport/football/barnsley/transfer-talk-wednesday-august-26-everton-attempt-to-buy-out-stones-sell-on-clause-swindon-stand-firm-over-town-target-byrne-1-7272067?
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Post  Cahill the Great on Wed 26 Aug 2015, 10:56 am

Yankthattoffee wrote:
Cahill the Great wrote:
Bluejagz wrote:I think the club should just say to Stones that they respect and understand he's a greedy money grabbing cnuthis wishes to play at CL club however, at this stage in the window, there just isn't time to find a suitable replacement but will honor his request next summer after the Euro finals. No hissy fit. He's only 21. He'll get a full season playing every week, learning his art in a less pressurised enviroment with a host of good pros around him.


I think this too.    The club has to always put its interests before the player.  Stones can wait a year and he should be mature enough to get on with it.

Players who put in transfer requests at this stage of the window usually have them rejected and this is really no different.    He has 4 years left on his contract so his value isnt going to go down.   No need to sell!
Rooney, Arteta, Fellaini, all put in their requests with hours to go, so this is a better scenario than that.
Sadly, like Barkley, his game could be found out over the rest oft this season and his value sinks like the Chinese stock market.
Surely BK, RM and Elstone have had a plan B for him banging in this request? 26. John Stones - Pirlo eat your heart out! - Page 16 Yahoo_34


Im not sure there was ever a Plan A
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Post  Cahill the Great on Wed 26 Aug 2015, 10:58 am

Helenqu wrote:I think the silence from the club on this now says that we are selling. Just read an article that says we are trying to buy out the sell on clause from Barnsley! http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/sport/football/barnsley/transfer-talk-wednesday-august-26-everton-attempt-to-buy-out-stones-sell-on-clause-swindon-stand-firm-over-town-target-byrne-1-7272067?

The only reason we'd consider selling now is if a) we really are skint or b) the money is too good to turn down. (Lets be honest - he's worth nowhere near £40m!)
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Post  Barry Horne's Equaliser on Wed 26 Aug 2015, 11:10 am

Helenqu wrote:I think the silence from the club on this now says that we are selling. Just read an article that says we are trying to buy out the sell on clause from Barnsley! http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/sport/football/barnsley/transfer-talk-wednesday-august-26-everton-attempt-to-buy-out-stones-sell-on-clause-swindon-stand-firm-over-town-target-byrne-1-7272067?

Ha. So we are in effect offering Barnsley the option to 'Cash Out' at reduced odds. Have we sent Ray Winstone over to Barnsley to negotiate for us?

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Post  Made 4 Gwladys on Wed 26 Aug 2015, 12:14 pm

Barry Horne's Equaliser wrote:
Helenqu wrote:I think the silence from the club on this now says that we are selling. Just read an article that says we are trying to buy out the sell on clause from Barnsley! http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/sport/football/barnsley/transfer-talk-wednesday-august-26-everton-attempt-to-buy-out-stones-sell-on-clause-swindon-stand-firm-over-town-target-byrne-1-7272067?

Ha. So we are in effect offering Barnsley the option to 'Cash Out' at reduced odds. Have we sent Ray Winstone over to Barnsley to negotiate for us?
Barnsley would be nuts to do that given where the deal currently is 26. John Stones - Pirlo eat your heart out! - Page 16 Doh
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Post  Goodison_Gringo on Wed 26 Aug 2015, 3:19 pm

Made Foo Gwladys wrote:
Barry Horne's Equaliser wrote:
Helenqu wrote:I think the silence from the club on this now says that we are selling. Just read an article that says we are trying to buy out the sell on clause from Barnsley! http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/sport/football/barnsley/transfer-talk-wednesday-august-26-everton-attempt-to-buy-out-stones-sell-on-clause-swindon-stand-firm-over-town-target-byrne-1-7272067?

Ha. So we are in effect offering Barnsley the option to 'Cash Out' at reduced odds. Have we sent Ray Winstone over to Barnsley to negotiate for us?
Barnsley would be nuts to do that given where the deal currently is 26. John Stones - Pirlo eat your heart out! - Page 16 Doh

Agreed.. it's like playing that Noel Edmonds game when you already know exactly what's in the box.

I tend to think that our silence means that he is gone though. I don't have much faith in Martinez to find competent replacemnets either. C'est la vie.
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Post  Barry Horne's Equaliser on Wed 26 Aug 2015, 3:32 pm

Chelsea apparently believe that £34m would be enough.

http://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/chelsea-confident-34m-will-be-enough-to-get-stones-as-everton-target-tottenhams-fazio-a2921286.html

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Post  Helenqu on Wed 26 Aug 2015, 3:36 pm

Barry Horne's Equaliser wrote:Chelsea apparently believe that £34m would be enough.

http://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/chelsea-confident-34m-will-be-enough-to-get-stones-as-everton-target-tot

tenhams-fazio-a2921286.html

Cheeky beggars! Nowhere close!
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Post  mindyerEnvelopeRef? on Wed 26 Aug 2015, 3:54 pm

I think (hope?) that he knows he's going nowhere right now but is trying to put it out there that he'd not be averse to a move in the future (or a payrise - why should he be any different?)

If we hang on now he's worth more at Xmas, and more again next summer.

Hold on Bill!
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Post  Yankthattoffee on Wed 26 Aug 2015, 3:56 pm

mindyerho? wrote:I think (hope?) that he knows he's going nowhere right now but is trying to put it out there that he'd not be averse to a move in the future (or a payrise - why should he be any different?)

If we hang on now he's worth more at Xmas, and more again next summer.

Hold on Bill!
I thought the same with Barkley 2 years ago. Now I'm not so sure.
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Post  mindyerEnvelopeRef? on Wed 26 Aug 2015, 3:59 pm

Yankthattoffee wrote:
mindyerho? wrote:I think (hope?) that he knows he's going nowhere right now but is trying to put it out there that he'd not be averse to a move in the future (or a payrise - why should he be any different?)

If we hang on now he's worth more at Xmas, and more again next summer.

Hold on Bill!
I thought the same with Barkley 2 years ago. Now I'm not so sure.

I hope you mean about the improvement? Barkley is better this year already
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Post  Helenqu on Wed 26 Aug 2015, 4:49 pm

Rumours now of a part swap for Phil Jones from Man U. He's always injured isn't he?
http://www.footballfancast.com/premier-league/manchester-united/man-united-to-offer-top-international-defender-to-snatch-chelsea-target?#q84d3joEkCxSZbFO.97


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Post  Gravy & Chips on Wed 26 Aug 2015, 5:07 pm

I'd love to see Maureen's face if he ended up going to the Mancs
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Post  Yankthattoffee on Wed 26 Aug 2015, 5:37 pm

mindyerho? wrote:
Yankthattoffee wrote:
mindyerho? wrote:I think (hope?) that he knows he's going nowhere right now but is trying to put it out there that he'd not be averse to a move in the future (or a payrise - why should he be any different?)

If we hang on now he's worth more at Xmas, and more again next summer.

Hold on Bill!
I thought the same with Barkley 2 years ago. Now I'm not so sure.

I hope you mean about the improvement?  Barkley is better this year already
I meant his £40M value at that time. Not so sure now.
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Post  Statman on Wed 26 Aug 2015, 5:45 pm

Bluejagz wrote:Not sure. Im between a rock and a hard place over it.
I remember when this made me laugh. Now it would be like getting blood out of a ....
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Post  Made 4 Gwladys on Wed 26 Aug 2015, 5:47 pm

Statman wrote:
Bluejagz wrote:Not sure. Im between a rock and a hard place over it.
I remember when this made me laugh. Now it would be like getting blood out of a ....
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Post  SouthernSmugToffee on Wed 26 Aug 2015, 6:40 pm

IMO I don't think we will sell him (yet silent)

The main reason is, there is not enough time to find and buy replacement.

Chelsea may have to wait till January to get their man.
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Post  hairy cataract on Wed 26 Aug 2015, 6:47 pm

Fucking hell, sell him now before he becomes shit. Costs £3m, plays 50 games, sells for £40m. Can't go wrong really. And he's no Raheem Sterling is he?

Sell him and build a nice new stand with the profit.
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Post  Goodison_Gringo on Wed 26 Aug 2015, 8:07 pm

hairberto cataract wrote:Fucking hell, sell him now before he becomes shit. Costs £3m, plays 50 games, sells for £40m.  Can't go wrong really. And he's no Raheem Sterling is he?

Sell him and build a nice new stand with the profit.  

Sell your Stones for £40m and buy a stand built out of?
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Post  Made 4 Gwladys on Wed 26 Aug 2015, 8:36 pm

hairberto cataract wrote:Fucking hell, sell him now before he becomes shit. Costs £3m, plays 50 games, sells for £40m.  Can't go wrong really. And he's no Raheem Sterling is he?

Sell him and build a nice new stand with the profit.  
too late... he's gone shit
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Post  mindyerEnvelopeRef? on Wed 26 Aug 2015, 10:23 pm

Rom giving his boots to the fans
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Post  Helenqu on Wed 26 Aug 2015, 10:31 pm

Martinez just said Stones is not for sale!
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Post  RhinoJagz on Wed 26 Aug 2015, 10:32 pm

Helenqu wrote:Martinez just said Stones is not for sale!

Surprised reporter then really press him a bit more but sounds certainly like there won't be any deal done.

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Post  Made 4 Gwladys on Wed 26 Aug 2015, 10:32 pm

Helenqu wrote:Martinez just said Stones is not for sale!
cheers well.. at least he's playing that correctly


he's still a wanker though
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