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Post  The President on Wed 01 Feb 2017, 9:50 pm

Ref got this wrong - dangerous freekick for stoke - hits wall
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Post  The President on Wed 01 Feb 2017, 9:51 pm

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Post  The President on Wed 01 Feb 2017, 9:51 pm

And we played short balls Stoke City v Everton - Page 4 F_doh
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Post  The President on Wed 01 Feb 2017, 9:51 pm

And we played short balls Stoke City v Everton - Page 4 F_doh
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Post  The President on Wed 01 Feb 2017, 9:52 pm

1-1 F/T

2 points lost
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Post  SouthernSmugToffee on Wed 01 Feb 2017, 9:52 pm

FT 1-1
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Post  Made 4 Gwladys on Wed 01 Feb 2017, 9:53 pm

The President wrote:1-1 F/T

2 points lost
Stoke are no mugs.. that was a tough away game IMO
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Post  Lumper on Wed 01 Feb 2017, 9:54 pm

Fair result.

A point at Stoke is decent.

Stoke are twats.
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Post  The President on Wed 01 Feb 2017, 9:55 pm

Made 4 Gwladys wrote:
The President wrote:1-1 F/T

2 points lost
Stoke are no mugs.. that was a tough away game IMO

I know but really thought we would be up for this one -
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Post  hairy cataract on Wed 01 Feb 2017, 10:14 pm

I'm absolutely loving Tom Davies. He really does look like he's going to be massive for us over the next few years. He can pass, he can tackle, he can burst into the box, he looks a goal threat, he finds space, he can run from one end of the pitch to the other without needing a fag-break, and he looks straight out of the 1970s. I love him.

And Lookman is already showing signs that he's a bit more than just another tricky winger with no end product, he's got a hell of a shot on him and lovely balance.

We're going to win the league. In two years time.
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Post  SEFTON on Wed 01 Feb 2017, 10:15 pm

Thought it would be a game of cloggers versus footballers, hard game to get anything but? A draw is better than a loss.

Do I lose my position starting the Bournemouth thread?.
Just asking like.
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Post  Made 4 Gwladys on Wed 01 Feb 2017, 10:37 pm

sefton wrote:Thought it would be a game of cloggers versus footballers, hard game to get anything but? A draw is better than a loss.

Do I lose my position starting the Bournemouth thread?.
Just asking like.
no mate .. it's yours until you suffer a defeat.... so till we play the shite Smile
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Post  Armchair on Thu 02 Feb 2017, 6:59 am

I'm reasonably happy with a point.
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Post  Gravy & Chips on Thu 02 Feb 2017, 12:16 pm

Can't grumble too much at a point at their ground.

Team well drilled and full of cloggers so Lukuku wasn't going to get a sniff


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Post  RhinoJagz on Thu 02 Feb 2017, 6:22 pm

A point was decent. Could have won in the end but they could have been 2 up before we equalised so cant complain. Too tough away games and 4 points so still keeping up pace with Utd who probably were the team to drop two points, rather then us. We play before them on Saturday so a real chance to put some pressure on them first.

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Post  SEFTON on Fri 03 Feb 2017, 11:15 am

KoelJagz wrote:A point was decent. Could have won in the end but they could have been 2 up before we equalised so cant complain. Too tough away games and 4 points so still keeping up pace with Utd who probably were the team to drop two points, rather then us. We play before them on Saturday so a real chance to put some pressure on them first.


Just wondered If Everton should complain ?

http://www.msn.com/en-gb/sport/football/saido-berahino-banned-for-failing-drug-test-while-at-west-brom-according-to-reports/ar-AAmz9hj?li=BBoPWjQ&OCID=HPDHP
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Post  Da Judge on Fri 03 Feb 2017, 12:03 pm

sefton wrote:
KoelJagz wrote:A point was decent. Could have won in the end but they could have been 2 up before we equalised so cant complain. Too tough away games and 4 points so still keeping up pace with Utd who probably were the team to drop two points, rather then us. We play before them on Saturday so a real chance to put some pressure on them first.


Just wondered If Everton should complain ?

http://www.msn.com/en-gb/sport/football/saido-berahino-banned-for-failing-drug-test-while-at-west-brom-according-to-reports/ar-AAmz9hj?li=BBoPWjQ&OCID=HPDHP

No, he did it he was sanctioned as per the rules it did not need to be disclosed. He completed his sanction and could expect to be rehabilitated. I am surprised that (but can understand why) Stoke made it public. In some ways it clears the air and tells media to back off but it does add to possible pressures on Berahino going forward and does have the effect of possibly dropping him down the pecking order for international consideration which focuses the mind on playing for Stoke.

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Post  SEFTON on Fri 03 Feb 2017, 12:08 pm

Da Judge wrote:
sefton wrote:
KoelJagz wrote:A point was decent. Could have won in the end but they could have been 2 up before we equalised so cant complain. Too tough away games and 4 points so still keeping up pace with Utd who probably were the team to drop two points, rather then us. We play before them on Saturday so a real chance to put some pressure on them first.


Just wondered If Everton should complain ?

http://www.msn.com/en-gb/sport/football/saido-berahino-banned-for-failing-drug-test-while-at-west-brom-according-to-reports/ar-AAmz9hj?li=BBoPWjQ&OCID=HPDHP

No, he did it he was sanctioned as per the rules it did not need to be disclosed. He completed his sanction and could expect to be rehabilitated. I am surprised that (but can understand why) Stoke made it public. In some ways it clears the air and tells media to back off but it does add to possible pressures on Berahino going forward and does have the effect of possibly dropping him down the pecking order for international consideration which focuses the mind on playing for Stoke.  

Its a real shame the FA don't take the same stance like the Athletics board,he and his clubs would have had points deducted.
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Post  Da Judge on Fri 03 Feb 2017, 1:10 pm

sefton wrote:
Da Judge wrote:
sefton wrote:
KoelJagz wrote:A point was decent. Could have won in the end but they could have been 2 up before we equalised so cant complain. Too tough away games and 4 points so still keeping up pace with Utd who probably were the team to drop two points, rather then us. We play before them on Saturday so a real chance to put some pressure on them first.


Just wondered If Everton should complain ?

http://www.msn.com/en-gb/sport/football/saido-berahino-banned-for-failing-drug-test-while-at-west-brom-according-to-reports/ar-AAmz9hj?li=BBoPWjQ&OCID=HPDHP

No, he did it he was sanctioned as per the rules it did not need to be disclosed. He completed his sanction and could expect to be rehabilitated. I am surprised that (but can understand why) Stoke made it public. In some ways it clears the air and tells media to back off but it does add to possible pressures on Berahino going forward and does have the effect of possibly dropping him down the pecking order for international consideration which focuses the mind on playing for Stoke.  

Its a real shame the FA don't take the same stance like the Athletics board,he and his clubs would have had points deducted.

Sef it was for the use of a recreational drug that is not classed as illegal within FIFA rules (and I suspect WADA). FIFA and the FA like the NFL, NBA and MLB have rightly taken the stance that the sport's image needs to be protected against an adverse "social message" that they all believe runs contrary to the spirit of the respective sport. Now if the drugs concerned had been performance enhancing - steroids like stanozolol - aka Ben Johnson (or performance enabling - hydrocortisone for intraskeletal support aka weightlifting/rugby) then yes the full weight of the law should be applied.

It is worth remembering that Berahino was already on the fringe of the WBA setup given his previous antics and agitation for a move. He has (presumably had traces of cocaine/cannabis) in a sample and he has served the ban as proscribed within FA rules. The social use needs to be contextualised - I am more than happy that the likes of Darren Gibson, Roberto Firmino and others are subject to the public condemnation that their anti-social behaviour has caused. In such instances the criminal law supersedes FA rules. Is this right? Probably yes because punishment should only be applied once for the same offence.

However as we have seen within the "professional" context yesterday with Philip Shiner (spit spit spit) being struck off as a lawyer for his misdemeanours he should also be prosecuted for the misappropriation and misuse of public funds. If Gordon "I am a prick" Taylor really means that his people are professional then DUI offences (drugs/alcohol) should be reflected in club bans. I can only readily come up with one example of a player being done under criminal law and then done under the professional codes of conduct. Back in the 90s a young Scottish lad named Duncan Ferguson.

So my question would be why does recreational misuse of alcohol be anymore socially acceptable to the footballing authorities as taking a recreational drug? Surely both are horrendous examples of "professional" behaviour?

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