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Post  Blue gazza Sat 05 Mar 2016, 4:51 pm

what a fucking joke, shit defending, wank attack shite midfield, knobhead manager
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Post  The President Sat 05 Mar 2016, 4:52 pm

Statman wrote:2-0 up with only 10 men. Martinez is going to go into adjective overload.

I can think of some now
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Post  hairy cataract Sat 05 Mar 2016, 4:52 pm

It's happened too many times this season. Stupid.

He has to go.

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Post  Mr_Ben Sat 05 Mar 2016, 4:53 pm

what a pile of cock
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Post  Made 4 Gwladys Sat 05 Mar 2016, 4:54 pm

FT .. .booooooooooooo

fuck off Bobby... please fuck off

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Post  Statman Sat 05 Mar 2016, 4:54 pm

Hammers' fans singing '2-0 and you fucked it up'. That should become our anthem.
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Post  Mr_Ben Sat 05 Mar 2016, 4:54 pm

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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Post  hairy cataract Sat 05 Mar 2016, 4:55 pm

I'm stunned.

We should have been three up and cruising, so you could blame Luka. But what the absolute fuck, how many leads do we need to throw away before Martinez gets the fucking sack.
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Post  Made 4 Gwladys Sat 05 Mar 2016, 4:55 pm

Besic coming on was the turning point... he's fucking shite

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Post  Mr_Ben Sat 05 Mar 2016, 4:55 pm

hairberto cataract wrote:It's happened too many times this season.  Stupid.

He has to go.


+1 Have to agree now. Moyes would have had us 3 points today.
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Post  The President Sat 05 Mar 2016, 4:56 pm

He really does have to go
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Post  Mr_Ben Sat 05 Mar 2016, 5:01 pm

The President wrote:He really does have to go

+1

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Post  Armchair Sat 05 Mar 2016, 5:02 pm

Bobby's position is untenable.
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Post  RhinoJagz Sat 05 Mar 2016, 5:08 pm

So this season we had:

Chelsea 3-3 Everton (from 2-0 and 3-2 up)

Everton 3-4 Stoke (from 3-2 up)

Bournemouth 3-3 Everton (from 2-0 and 3-2 up)

Norwich 1-1 Everton (from 1-0 up and cruising)

Although the blame should lie with Mirallas and Lukaku. However, once they got one goal back, i knew we would be lucky to draw, and a defeat not unexpected. Thats a bigger mentality issue that lies firmly at the door of Martinez. We simply cannot defend a lead once the opposition starts to make inroads. That has simply destroyed our season and has killed momentum at crucial stages. Our last and slim hope of gate crashing the top six is now firmly over.

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Post  The President Sat 05 Mar 2016, 5:10 pm

Bluejagz wrote:So this season we had:

Chelsea 3-3 Everton (from 2-0 and 3-2 up)

Everton 3-4 Stoke (from 3-2 up)

Bournemouth 3-3 Everton (from 2-0 and 3-2 up)

Norwich 1-1 Everton (from 1-0 up and cruising)

Although the blame should lie with Mirallas and Lukaku. However, once they got one goal back, i knew we would be lucky to draw, and a defeat not unexpected. Thats a bigger mentality issue that lies firmly at the door of Martinez. We simply cannot defend a lead once the opposition starts to make inroads. That has simply destroyed our season and has killed momentum at crucial stages. Our last and slim hope of gate crashing the top six is now firmly over.

Has the takeover been agreed yet ??
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Post  Tonteau Sat 05 Mar 2016, 5:12 pm

Bluejagz wrote:So this season we had:

Chelsea 3-3 Everton (from 2-0 and 3-2 up)

Everton 3-4 Stoke (from 3-2 up)

Bournemouth 3-3 Everton (from 2-0 and 3-2 up)

Norwich 1-1 Everton (from 1-0 up and cruising)

Although the blame should lie with Mirallas and Lukaku. However, once they got one goal back, i knew we would be lucky to draw, and a defeat not unexpected. Thats a bigger mentality issue that lies firmly at the door of Martinez. We simply cannot defend a lead once the opposition starts to make inroads. That has simply destroyed our season and has killed momentum at crucial stages. Our last and slim hope of gate crashing the top six is now firmly over.

I'm not defending Bobby here, and we should certainly have seen that game out, but the two biggest influences on the game were mirallas getting a red and Lukaku missing a pen. Two things he really can't control.

Still, fuck that shite. We've the best group of players we've had in ages and we're pissing about in mid table with the shite teams. That's down to Bobby.
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Post  Armchair Sat 05 Mar 2016, 5:13 pm

Tonteau wrote:
Bluejagz wrote:So this season we had:

Chelsea 3-3 Everton (from 2-0 and 3-2 up)

Everton 3-4 Stoke (from 3-2 up)

Bournemouth 3-3 Everton (from 2-0 and 3-2 up)

Norwich 1-1 Everton (from 1-0 up and cruising)

Although the blame should lie with Mirallas and Lukaku. However, once they got one goal back, i knew we would be lucky to draw, and a defeat not unexpected. Thats a bigger mentality issue that lies firmly at the door of Martinez. We simply cannot defend a lead once the opposition starts to make inroads. That has simply destroyed our season and has killed momentum at crucial stages. Our last and slim hope of gate crashing the top six is now firmly over.

I'm not defending Bobby here, and we should certainly have seen that game out, but the two biggest influences on the game were mirallas getting a red and Lukaku missing a pen. Two things he really can't control.

Still, fuck that shite. We've the best group of players we've had in ages and we're pissing about in mid table with the shite teams. That's down to Bobby.

I don't know why Luka is allowed to take penalties. Even the ones he scores only just go in.
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Post  SEFTON Sat 05 Mar 2016, 5:14 pm

Can some one ell me why Martinez took off Lennon for a striker?

Takeover should be complete after League approval next week. First Job should be to get rid of Martinez .
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Post  RhinoJagz Sat 05 Mar 2016, 5:16 pm

Tonteau wrote:
Bluejagz wrote:So this season we had:

Chelsea 3-3 Everton (from 2-0 and 3-2 up)

Everton 3-4 Stoke (from 3-2 up)

Bournemouth 3-3 Everton (from 2-0 and 3-2 up)

Norwich 1-1 Everton (from 1-0 up and cruising)

Although the blame should lie with Mirallas and Lukaku. However, once they got one goal back, i knew we would be lucky to draw, and a defeat not unexpected. Thats a bigger mentality issue that lies firmly at the door of Martinez. We simply cannot defend a lead once the opposition starts to make inroads. That has simply destroyed our season and has killed momentum at crucial stages. Our last and slim hope of gate crashing the top six is now firmly over.

I'm not defending Bobby here, and we should certainly have seen that game out, but the two biggest influences on the game were mirallas getting a red and Lukaku missing a pen. Two things he really can't control.

Still, fuck that shite. We've the best group of players we've had in ages and we're pissing about in mid table with the shite teams. That's down to Bobby.

That isn't something that is on the Bobby play sheet. It has never existed in his head. Its fine if we are 3,4 ahead or the likes of Villa, Newcastle, Sunderland have given up and not threatened to get back in to it but we just don't adapt when the opposition start to have a go. Thats Martinez fault. Even if you analyze today. Yes, he may have brought on Besic but the damage of several capitulations this season is burnt in to the players brains and we just can't cope. Its something we are incapable of learning from under this manager.

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Post  The President Sat 05 Mar 2016, 5:29 pm

The win, only West Ham's second in their past 10 away matches
How poor are we?
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Post  Blue gazza Sat 05 Mar 2016, 5:38 pm

Armchair wrote:
Tonteau wrote:
Bluejagz wrote:So this season we had:

Chelsea 3-3 Everton (from 2-0 and 3-2 up)

Everton 3-4 Stoke (from 3-2 up)

Bournemouth 3-3 Everton (from 2-0 and 3-2 up)

Norwich 1-1 Everton (from 1-0 up and cruising)

Although the blame should lie with Mirallas and Lukaku. However, once they got one goal back, i knew we would be lucky to draw, and a defeat not unexpected. Thats a bigger mentality issue that lies firmly at the door of Martinez. We simply cannot defend a lead once the opposition starts to make inroads. That has simply destroyed our season and has killed momentum at crucial stages. Our last and slim hope of gate crashing the top six is now firmly over.

I'm not defending Bobby here, and we should certainly have seen that game out, but the two biggest influences on the game were mirallas getting a red and Lukaku missing a pen. Two things he really can't control.

Still, fuck that shite. We've the best group of players we've had in ages and we're pissing about in mid table with the shite teams. That's down to Bobby.

I don't know why Luka is allowed to take penalties. Even the ones he scores only just go in.

never felt confident with him taking them
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Post  Barry Horne's Equaliser Sat 05 Mar 2016, 5:42 pm

I blame Super. "We are staying up" indeed!

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Post  Made 4 Gwladys Sat 05 Mar 2016, 6:10 pm

I am so pissed off.... he has to go now.. this is embarrassing

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Post  Barry Horne's Equaliser Sat 05 Mar 2016, 8:00 pm

http://www.evertonfc.com/news/2016/03/05/robertos-reaction

Clutching at straws I think, Roberto...

Martinez said: “We were presented with a very difficult challenge when Kevin Mirallas got the red card.

“I think it was really soft. The first yellow card is one of those incidents you don’t want to see on a football pitch; the referee should allow games to be 11 v 11 unless they have to send someone off.

Problem with your reasoning Roberto, is that if someone commits two offences worthy of a yellow card as Mirallas did, then the referee does indeed have to send someone off. Them being the rules and all.

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Post  Yankthattoffee Sat 05 Mar 2016, 10:11 pm

Got to agree with you guys about everything.
It's amazing how we all seem to see the deficiencies and careless substitutions game after game, before RM does, but it's just killing us.
He clearly started Stones to placate the lad, at least I'm assuming he did that, because the back-3 idea needs a whole different mind set. With Besic available why not just swap like for like?
With 15 minutes to go RM decides to go with 2 strikers with 10 men on the field. Are you nuts RM? Everyone around us is asking why Barry isn't sent on to organise and shore things up (he must have been able to get through 15 minutes), but no, RM makes the same bloody mistakes time and time again. WHU send on the aerial bombardment team, so STOP THE CROSSES COMING IN! Mark tight, but do we? Do we hell!"
As for RM's post match comments on radio 5, he just talks drivel new age crap.
Morale must be dreadful.
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