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Post  Made 4 Gwladys on Sat 12 Dec 2015, 11:03 pm

Statman wrote:
Mori Foo Gwladys wrote:While it is natural to be disappointed (I am) ,,, we really should be very pleased that we are playing so well... let's face it on another day we'd have won that 5-0... maybe a lot more....

we've won games that we should have lost so it balances out.

Our team is looking fucking good

Blimey, what happened at the beach to change your mood.
I saw a bloke in a Chelsea shirt Laughing
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Post  Yankthattoffee on Sun 13 Dec 2015, 10:30 am

Mori Foo Gwladys wrote:
Yankthattoffee wrote:
The President wrote:How did we not win

We can't defend corners for a full 90 minutes
set pieces aren't important in Bobby's world
That's true. As a result he leaves Lukaku on the half way line.
We used to criticise Moyes for defending corners with all 111 men.
What do we think now?
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Post  Lumper on Sun 13 Dec 2015, 11:03 am

Yankthattoffee wrote:
Mori Foo Gwladys wrote:
Yankthattoffee wrote:
The President wrote:How did we not win

We can't defend corners for a full 90 minutes
set pieces aren't important in Bobby's world
That's true. As a result he leaves Lukaku on the half way line.
We used to criticise Moyes for defending corners with all 111 men.
What do we think now?

If we could have 111 on the pitch now we might win a few more games Smile
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Post  Statman on Sun 13 Dec 2015, 3:55 pm

Mori Foo Gwladys wrote:
Statman wrote:
Mori Foo Gwladys wrote:While it is natural to be disappointed (I am) ,,, we really should be very pleased that we are playing so well... let's face it on another day we'd have won that 5-0... maybe a lot more....

we've won games that we should have lost so it balances out.

Our team is looking fucking good

Blimey, what happened at the beach to change your mood.
I saw a bloke in a Chelsea shirt Laughing

Very Happy
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Post  Knight of Thorgothshire on Sun 13 Dec 2015, 4:02 pm

Against both Bournemouth and Norwich, we bossed the first half, they made adjustments at halftime to pressure us harder and we got stuck in our game plan, couldn't change things and didn't win. We have no Plan B.
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Post  Tonteau on Mon 14 Dec 2015, 10:21 am

Simon Burnton - Guardian wrote:9) Martínez has greatly improved Everton, despite what it looks like

Robert Martínez’s first game in charge of Everton was a 2-2 draw at relegation-bound Norwich, and his team ended that first campaign in fifth. Two and two-fifths seasons later he returned to Carrow Road, with Norwich once again apparently destined to spend their season battling relegation, and got another score draw to help his team to end the weekend in 10th. It is, on the face of it, not a picture of enormous progress, even if the match itself – and in particular a first half that Everton largely spent attacking brilliantly and relentlessly – told a different story. The frustration is that Everton could only draw a game in which they led, and should have won, just as in their last away game, at Bournemouth, when they were 2-0 up with 10 minutes to play and 3-2 up with 15 seconds on the clock. Everton have drawn five of their eight away games this season – the most in the league – and three more at home. Only Tottenham can match their tally of eight stalemates overall. The extra four points they should have earned from their last two away games alone would be enough to put them fifth in the table, and help to make any discussion about whether Martínez has improved the team a short one. - Simon Burnton
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Post  Yankthattoffee on Mon 14 Dec 2015, 2:22 pm

Tonteau wrote:
Simon Burnton - Guardian wrote:9) Martínez has greatly improved Everton, despite what it looks like

Robert Martínez’s first game in charge of Everton was a 2-2 draw at relegation-bound Norwich, and his team ended that first campaign in fifth. Two and two-fifths seasons later he returned to Carrow Road, with Norwich once again apparently destined to spend their season battling relegation, and got another score draw to help his team to end the weekend in 10th. It is, on the face of it, not a picture of enormous progress, even if the match itself – and in particular a first half that Everton largely spent attacking brilliantly and relentlessly – told a different story. The frustration is that Everton could only draw a game in which they led, and should have won, just as in their last away game, at Bournemouth, when they were 2-0 up with 10 minutes to play and 3-2 up with 15 seconds on the clock. Everton have drawn five of their eight away games this season – the most in the league – and three more at home. Only Tottenham can match their tally of eight stalemates overall. The extra four points they should have earned from their last two away games alone would be enough to put them fifth in the table, and help to make any discussion about whether Martínez has improved the team a short one. - Simon Burnton
fair comment
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Post  Hinchcliffe Corner on Mon 14 Dec 2015, 2:39 pm

Tonteau wrote:
Simon Burnton - Guardian wrote:9) Martínez has greatly improved Everton, despite what it looks like

Robert Martínez’s first game in charge of Everton was a 2-2 draw at relegation-bound Norwich, and his team ended that first campaign in fifth. Two and two-fifths seasons later he returned to Carrow Road, with Norwich once again apparently destined to spend their season battling relegation, and got another score draw to help his team to end the weekend in 10th. It is, on the face of it, not a picture of enormous progress, even if the match itself – and in particular a first half that Everton largely spent attacking brilliantly and relentlessly – told a different story. The frustration is that Everton could only draw a game in which they led, and should have won, just as in their last away game, at Bournemouth, when they were 2-0 up with 10 minutes to play and 3-2 up with 15 seconds on the clock. Everton have drawn five of their eight away games this season – the most in the league – and three more at home. Only Tottenham can match their tally of eight stalemates overall. The extra four points they should have earned from their last two away games alone would be enough to put them fifth in the table, and help to make any discussion about whether Martínez has improved the team a short one. - Simon Burnton

So what he's saying is that when we played Norwich two years ago, we couldn't hold on to a lead and ended up drawing, but this time when we couldn't hold on to a lead, and ended up drawing, it's somehow better?
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Post  Knight of Thorgothshire on Mon 14 Dec 2015, 6:33 pm

That article has a lot of ifs and buts in it.

If we didn't concede goals period, we'd probably the league. What I am getting at is that playing pretty doesn't necessarily get you anything. Just ask the average Arsenal fan as of late. Granted, they will probably win the league this year, lol.
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