10: Mikel Arteta - Best Little Spaniard - Arsed!

Sack the Juggler wrote:

mindyerho? wrote:

Sack the Juggler wrote:

Mr_Ben wrote:

Sack the Juggler wrote:

Knight of Thorgothshire wrote:

Mr_Ben wrote:

treblA wrote:players come and go. we've got to be realistic (and i thik on this message board we are). if the price is right then thanks mikel and goodbye.

agreed

Considering his age, he still has 3-5 good years left in him, but if we have a young great player lined up, it'll be tempting to accept.

True, but if he got us into the CL next season and we got 3-5 years in there, then maybe it'd be best to keep him

The reason i say let him go is his age. I do think he has 3-5 years left in him but in 2 years we'd do well to get over £7m for him, consensus in idem

True mate, but a loss of £14m on a transfer fee now might equate to a couple of years in the CL earning an extra £10m per annum

for which we'd pay him about 4m?

which we'd only spend on his replacement

So sell him and get a replacement? We'd presumably get someone on a 5 year contract. If we are assuming that by the age of 30 we need to move players on or risk getting nothing then we shouldn't be in the market for anyone of more than 25 years. If we allow him, say, two seasons to really gel in the squad before he becomes irreplaceable that means he'll be 27. That in turn would give any replacement 1 great season with us before he's 28 and we need to sell him before his value drops.

I'm not sure I follow what I've just said but I think I'm trying to say that sometimes we should just fuck the monetary value and consider how valuable a player is to the team. For me, in the type of market we operate in, Arteta is irreplaceable. Any replacement we bring in is going to need time which means we are just going to keep going round in circles, never progressing.

Conclusion - tell Man City to fuck right off, unless they come with a £40m cheque.

Goodison_Gringo wrote:

Sack the Juggler wrote:

mindyerho? wrote:

Sack the Juggler wrote:

Mr_Ben wrote:

Sack the Juggler wrote:

Knight of Thorgothshire wrote:

Mr_Ben wrote:

treblA wrote:players come and go. we've got to be realistic (and i thik on this message board we are). if the price is right then thanks mikel and goodbye.

agreed

Considering his age, he still has 3-5 good years left in him, but if we have a young great player lined up, it'll be tempting to accept.

True, but if he got us into the CL next season and we got 3-5 years in there, then maybe it'd be best to keep him

The reason i say let him go is his age. I do think he has 3-5 years left in him but in 2 years we'd do well to get over £7m for him, consensus in idem

True mate, but a loss of £14m on a transfer fee now might equate to a couple of years in the CL earning an extra £10m per annum

for which we'd pay him about 4m?

which we'd only spend on his replacement

So sell him and get a replacement? We'd presumably get someone on a 5 year contract. If we are assuming that by the age of 30 we need to move players on or risk getting nothing then we shouldn't be in the market for anyone of more than 25 years. If we allow him, say, two seasons to really gel in the squad before he becomes irreplaceable that means he'll be 27. That in turn would give any replacement 1 great season with us before he's 28 and we need to sell him before his value drops.

I'm not sure I follow what I've just said but I think I'm trying to say that sometimes we should just fuck the monetary value and consider how valuable a player is to the team. For me, in the type of market we operate in, Arteta is irreplaceable. Any replacement we bring in is going to need time which means we are just going to keep going round in circles, never progressing.

Conclusion - tell Man City to fuck right off, unless they come with a £40m cheque.

consensus in idem

Sack the Juggler wrote:

Goodison_Gringo wrote:

Sack the Juggler wrote:

mindyerho? wrote:

Sack the Juggler wrote:

Mr_Ben wrote:

Sack the Juggler wrote:

Knight of Thorgothshire wrote:

Mr_Ben wrote:

treblA wrote:players come and go. we've got to be realistic (and i thik on this message board we are). if the price is right then thanks mikel and goodbye.

agreed

Considering his age, he still has 3-5 good years left in him, but if we have a young great player lined up, it'll be tempting to accept.

True, but if he got us into the CL next season and we got 3-5 years in there, then maybe it'd be best to keep him

The reason i say let him go is his age. I do think he has 3-5 years left in him but in 2 years we'd do well to get over £7m for him, consensus in idem

True mate, but a loss of £14m on a transfer fee now might equate to a couple of years in the CL earning an extra £10m per annum

for which we'd pay him about 4m?

which we'd only spend on his replacement

So sell him and get a replacement? We'd presumably get someone on a 5 year contract. If we are assuming that by the age of 30 we need to move players on or risk getting nothing then we shouldn't be in the market for anyone of more than 25 years. If we allow him, say, two seasons to really gel in the squad before he becomes irreplaceable that means he'll be 27. That in turn would give any replacement 1 great season with us before he's 28 and we need to sell him before his value drops.

I'm not sure I follow what I've just said but I think I'm trying to say that sometimes we should just fuck the monetary value and consider how valuable a player is to the team. For me, in the type of market we operate in, Arteta is irreplaceable. Any replacement we bring in is going to need time which means we are just going to keep going round in circles, never progressing.

Conclusion - tell Man City to fuck right off, unless they come with a £40m cheque.

consensus in idem

Yes, I realise we agree. I replied to the wrong thread

The thought of Mikel in another Premier League team shirt sickens me. Its like been dumped and then seeing your ex in your local with a new man. Rather he would go back to Spain. Out of sight out of mind.

Frankly I dont believe Mikel wants to leave for another PL team but perhaps back home but I dont see that for maybe another 2-3 years.

Sack the Juggler wrote:

Goodison_Gringo wrote:

Sack the Juggler wrote:

mindyerho? wrote:

Sack the Juggler wrote:

Mr_Ben wrote:

Sack the Juggler wrote:

Knight of Thorgothshire wrote:

Mr_Ben wrote:

treblA wrote:players come and go. we've got to be realistic (and i thik on this message board we are). if the price is right then thanks mikel and goodbye.

agreed

Considering his age, he still has 3-5 good years left in him, but if we have a young great player lined up, it'll be tempting to accept.

True, but if he got us into the CL next season and we got 3-5 years in there, then maybe it'd be best to keep him

The reason i say let him go is his age. I do think he has 3-5 years left in him but in 2 years we'd do well to get over £7m for him, consensus in idem

True mate, but a loss of £14m on a transfer fee now might equate to a couple of years in the CL earning an extra £10m per annum

for which we'd pay him about 4m?

which we'd only spend on his replacement

So sell him and get a replacement? We'd presumably get someone on a 5 year contract. If we are assuming that by the age of 30 we need to move players on or risk getting nothing then we shouldn't be in the market for anyone of more than 25 years. If we allow him, say, two seasons to really gel in the squad before he becomes irreplaceable that means he'll be 27. That in turn would give any replacement 1 great season with us before he's 28 and we need to sell him before his value drops.

I'm not sure I follow what I've just said but I think I'm trying to say that sometimes we should just fuck the monetary value and consider how valuable a player is to the team. For me, in the type of market we operate in, Arteta is irreplaceable. Any replacement we bring in is going to need time which means we are just going to keep going round in circles, never progressing.

Conclusion - tell Man City to fuck right off, unless they come with a £40m cheque.

consensus in idem

far too much bad language on this site

Areta for me is our talisman, when he plays he raises the players and the crowd.

Much much more valuable than Lescott. It would have to be a huge Cheque and i'd still cry.

Gazbow wrote:Areta for me is our talisman, when he plays he raises the players and the crowd.

Much much more valuable than Lescott. It would have to be a huge Cheque and i'd still cry.

christ you still affected by the last episode of Lost

Mr_Ben wrote:

Gazbow wrote:Areta for me is our talisman, when he plays he raises the players and the crowd.

Much much more valuable than Lescott. It would have to be a huge Cheque and i'd still cry.

christ you still affected by the last episode of Lost

http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/Manchester-United-transfer-news-Sir-Alex-Ferguson-planning-summer-move-for-Everton-star-Mikel-Arteta-article443891.html

Mr_Ben wrote:http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/Manchester-United-transfer-news-Sir-Alex-Ferguson-planning-summer-move-for-Everton-star-Mikel-Arteta-article443891.html

Manchester United are ready to make an audacious swoop to sign Everton midfielder Mikel Arteta, who is struggling to make progress with the Merseyside club over an extension to his contract, which has two years still to run.
Full story: The Daily Mirror

The President wrote:

Mr_Ben wrote:http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/Manchester-United-transfer-news-Sir-Alex-Ferguson-planning-summer-move-for-Everton-star-Mikel-Arteta-article443891.html

Manchester United are ready to make an audacious swoop to sign Everton midfielder Mikel Arteta, who is struggling to make progress with the Merseyside club over an extension to his contract, which has two years still to run.
Full story: The Daily Mirror

I cant remember the last time the Mirror got somthing right bar Beckford which every paper or at least a lot already had.

So by the start of the season

Arteta will be at City/Utd

Jagielka will be at City

Hietinga will be at City

Peinaar will be at Tottenham

Fellaini will be at Real Madrid

Yakubu will be at West Ham


We will have a huge transfer kitty for deadline day!

Bluejags wrote:So by the start of the season

Arteta will be at City/Utd

Jagielka will be at City

Hietinga will be at City

Peinaar will be at Tottenham

Fellaini will be at Real Madrid

Yakubu will be at West Ham


We will have a huge transfer kitty for deadline day!

And end up with Dickov, Savage, Earnshaw, Trundle

Bluejags wrote:So by the start of the season

Arteta will be at City/Utd £30m

Jagielka will be at City £15m

Hietinga will be at City £15m

Peinaar will be at Tottenham £15m

Fellaini will be at Real Madrid £30m

Yakubu will be at West Ham £10m


We will have a huge transfer kitty for deadline day!

£115million would pay for a new stadium

Mr_Ben wrote:http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/Manchester-United-transfer-news-Sir-Alex-Ferguson-planning-summer-move-for-Everton-star-Mikel-Arteta-article443891.html

That reporter has a bit of a reputation as being a troll.
I don't think Arteta would be sold for £10 mill to any club any time soon. He's not the best, but he's much better than that figure suggests. Any team would need to double it, and think of a number etc.

Even the Mancs have put him on their own pages for some reason:

http://www.manutd.com/default.sps?pagegid=%7BB4CEE8FA%2D9A47%2D47BC%2DB069%2D3F7A2F35DB70%7D&newsid=6649535

BB wrote:

Mr_Ben wrote:http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/Manchester-United-transfer-news-Sir-Alex-Ferguson-planning-summer-move-for-Everton-star-Mikel-Arteta-article443891.html

That reporter has a bit of a reputation as being a troll.
I don't think Arteta would be sold for £10 mill to any club any time soon. He's not the best, but he's much better than that figure suggests. Any team would need to double it, and think of a number etc.

Even the Mancs have put him on their own pages for some reason:

http://www.manutd.com/default.sps?pagegid=%7BB4CEE8FA%2D9A47%2D47BC%2DB069%2D3F7A2F35DB70%7D&newsid=6649535

I shouldn't read too much into that. The EFC website does a round up of newspaper speculation as well. I think it's fairly standard.

BAAAXXXTTTERRRRRRR!!!!!!! wrote:

BB wrote:

Mr_Ben wrote:http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/Manchester-United-transfer-news-Sir-Alex-Ferguson-planning-summer-move-for-Everton-star-Mikel-Arteta-article443891.html

That reporter has a bit of a reputation as being a troll.
I don't think Arteta would be sold for £10 mill to any club any time soon. He's not the best, but he's much better than that figure suggests. Any team would need to double it, and think of a number etc.

Even the Mancs have put him on their own pages for some reason:

http://www.manutd.com/default.sps?pagegid=%7BB4CEE8FA%2D9A47%2D47BC%2DB069%2D3F7A2F35DB70%7D&newsid=6649535

I shouldn't read too much into that. The EFC website does a round up of newspaper speculation as well. I think it's fairly standard.

Ours is two weeks behind everyone elses though

Armchair Evertonian wrote:

BAAAXXXTTTERRRRRRR!!!!!!! wrote:

BB wrote:

Mr_Ben wrote:http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/Manchester-United-transfer-news-Sir-Alex-Ferguson-planning-summer-move-for-Everton-star-Mikel-Arteta-article443891.html

That reporter has a bit of a reputation as being a troll.
I don't think Arteta would be sold for £10 mill to any club any time soon. He's not the best, but he's much better than that figure suggests. Any team would need to double it, and think of a number etc.

Even the Mancs have put him on their own pages for some reason:

http://www.manutd.com/default.sps?pagegid=%7BB4CEE8FA%2D9A47%2D47BC%2DB069%2D3F7A2F35DB70%7D&newsid=6649535

I shouldn't read too much into that. The EFC website does a round up of newspaper speculation as well. I think it's fairly standard.

Ours is two weeks behind everyone elses though

They probably steal their links from Everton forums weeks after we have read and discussed them.

Everton midfielder Mikel Arteta is set to reject offers from Manchester United and Arsenal to sign a new deal to stay at Goodison Park.
Full story: Sunday Mirror

Lets hope this one is TRUE

The President wrote:Everton midfielder Mikel Arteta is set to reject offers from Manchester United and Arsenal to sign a new deal to stay at Goodison Park.
Full story: Sunday Mirror

Lets hope this one is TRUE

Lets hope so mate. Arteta has always spoken of his love for the club so it could be true. I agree with some on here by saying that if he does go then I hope it is abroad.

Dixie Land wrote:

The President wrote:Everton midfielder Mikel Arteta is set to reject offers from Manchester United and Arsenal to sign a new deal to stay at Goodison Park.
Full story: Sunday Mirror

Lets hope this one is TRUE

Lets hope so mate. Arteta has always spoken of his love for the club so it could be true. I agree with some on here by saying that if he does go then I hope it is abroad.

I would be suprised if Arteta goes. Players are going to shine in the world cup and clubs will go after them, forgeting about Arteta untill he scores in the opening game of the season!

Mr_Ben wrote:

Dixie Land wrote:

The President wrote:Everton midfielder Mikel Arteta is set to reject offers from Manchester United and Arsenal to sign a new deal to stay at Goodison Park.
Full story: Sunday Mirror

Lets hope this one is TRUE

Lets hope so mate. Arteta has always spoken of his love for the club so it could be true. I agree with some on here by saying that if he does go then I hope it is abroad.

I would be suprised if Arteta goes. Players are going to shine in the world cup and clubs will go after them, forgeting about Arteta untill he scores in the opening game of the season!

Good point mate. I have always wanted to see Arteta get in the Spain squad while playing for us but thinking about it maybe it is a good thing that he isnt in the World Cup squad.

Dixie Land wrote:

Mr_Ben wrote:

Dixie Land wrote:

The President wrote:Everton midfielder Mikel Arteta is set to reject offers from Manchester United and Arsenal to sign a new deal to stay at Goodison Park.
Full story: Sunday Mirror

Lets hope this one is TRUE

Lets hope so mate. Arteta has always spoken of his love for the club so it could be true. I agree with some on here by saying that if he does go then I hope it is abroad.

I would be suprised if Arteta goes. Players are going to shine in the world cup and clubs will go after them, forgeting about Arteta untill he scores in the opening game of the season!

Good point mate. I have always wanted to see Arteta get in the Spain squad while playing for us but thinking about it maybe it is a good thing that he isnt in the World Cup squad.

True. He needs to get 100% fit for next season. I hope he signs soon since that might make Pienaar want to sign as well.

There will be an injury and he will be called up and win the golden boot. It is written.

BB wrote:There will be an injury and he will be called up and win the golden boot. It is written.

He better sign a new contract first then!